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    I think Norman just sealed the deal that Kindred is a boy and not a girl. I mean Spencer has been very consitent regarding this from the beginning. So anyone thinking Gwen should think otherwise unless Kindred changed his voice from female to male to fool everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex85 View Post
    I think Norman just sealed the deal that Kindred is a boy and not a girl. I mean Spencer has been very consitent regarding this from the beginning. So anyone thinking Gwen should think otherwise unless Kindred changed his voice from female to male to fool everyone.
    Kindred's a demonic creature. It honestly wouldn't be weird if its voice could change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    Kindred's a demonic creature. It honestly wouldn't be weird if its voice could change.
    It doens't make sense to me for Spencer to consistenly misinform the reader about Kindred's gender. If your going to setup a mystery and give the reader clues about the identity, they should at least be accurate so when the reveal comes being can be like "wow, this person checks all the boxes, I can't believe I didn't guess it!" and not "we were consistently given false information there was no way I could have guessed it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vortex85 View Post
    It doens't make sense to me for Spencer to consistenly misinform the reader about Kindred's gender. If your going to setup a mystery and give the reader clues about the identity, they should at least be accurate so when the reveal comes being can be like "wow, this person checks all the boxes, I can't believe I didn't guess it!" and not "we were consistently given false information there was no way I could have guessed it."
    You're never supposed to figure out a mystery before the big reveal. Mystery writers never spoil the story for the readers.

    We should expect Spencer to misconstrue and misrepresent information so as not to give away information.

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    Kindred is a male. It's been over a year since Spencer removed all ambiguity from Clone Conspiracy resurrections and established that Mysterio knows his real name, knows it's a man, and that it really is his true name because Kindred killed someone who was told it. Kindred being Gwen or a woman is the running gag of CBR. The last time Spencer made people wait 50 issues for a villain reveal it was after establishing that he was the other villains' father, and fans used that information to theorize until it was revealed he was male because that is how mysteries work. If a reveal explicitly contradicts the text's clues, stories get criticized for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    You're never supposed to figure out a mystery before the big reveal. Mystery writers never spoil the story for the readers.

    We should expect Spencer to misconstrue and misrepresent information so as not to give away information.
    Didn't people figure out that Jason Todd was Red Hood way before they revealed it over in Batman? Or that Roderick Kingsley (or Ned Leeds) was the Hobgoblin even in this title? And aren't people guessing in this very forum that Kindred could be Pre-OMD Peter? Even though the writing is literally on the wall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    Norman has a lot of nerve blaming Peter, when this happened because he just couldn't shut his big filthy mouth and keep pushing Spider-Man over the edge. Well, guess what, Norman? You finally pushed Spider-Man too much and this is what you deserve.

    I just wonder, who could have given such beating to Spider-Man? I don't know you, but he certainly doesn't look as bad as after one battle against Morlun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursalink View Post
    Norman has a lot of nerve blaming Peter, when this happened because he just couldn't shut his big filthy mouth and keep pushing Spider-Man over the edge. Well, guess what, Norman? You finally pushed Spider-Man too much and this is what you deserve.

    I just wonder, who could have given such beating to Spider-Man? I don't know you, but he certainly doesn't look as bad as after one battle against Morlun.
    Are you referring to me and yeah I believe I seen that beating he received from morlun before plus I still remember when spiderman was set on fire that onetime yeah he gets beat up a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    Are you referring to me and yeah I believe I seen that beating he received from morlun before plus I still remember when spiderman was set on fire that onetime yeah he gets beat up a lot
    I meant anyone who read this thread. I know Spider-Man is beaten up a lot, but none of those beating can be compared with the ones he received from Morlun. (I mean, Morlun even took one of his eyes once).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ursalink View Post
    I meant anyone who read this thread. I know Spider-Man is beaten up a lot, but none of those beating can be compared with the ones he received from Morlun. (I mean, Morlun even took one of his eyes once).
    If we go by the cover then Spidey’s gang gets turned and beats him up.

    I also get the feeling that Norman is not going to lay down for the Sin Eater. It also looks like his Juggy powers have a time limit.

    Lastly I don’t think Kindred is going to let the Sin Eater have all the fun with Norman. He’s got to deliver the final blow himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3pointshooter View Post
    If we go by the cover then Spidey’s gang gets turned and beats him up.

    I also get the feeling that Norman is not going to lay down for the Sin Eater. It also looks like his Juggy powers have a time limit.

    Lastly I don’t think Kindred is going to let the Sin Eater have all the fun with Norman. He’s got to deliver the final blow himself.
    Doesn't have much sense the other spiders just beat him, because they have no reasons to punch him just for letting Norman to his luck. And in the posterior numbers, the covers suggest they are corrupted, but the descriptions seems to indicate they actually try to help him.

    It surprised me he lost the Juggernaut's powers so quickly, but like I suspected, this may be because of Cyttorak; who is a very powerful demon, clearly more than Kindred.

    Yeah, that's a possibility. Then again, I don't think Norman will stay out by Kindred. He's a very difficult vermin to exterminate.

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