Which Bat-Family Villains do you want reformed or not?

[Bat-Meal]

Since it feels like a lot of them are getting reformed these days, lets discuss.

Clayface is interesting as reformed, but keep him out of the Bat-Family. I wonder what he's been up to with Dr Oktober (last time I saw him on panel he left with her).
Killer-Croc I'd say keep reformed. Would like to see him back in a team again.
Harley I don't care if she's good or bad (not that they'd ever make her bad again now), but I don't like her in the Bat-Family.
Two-Face I'm indifferent about.
Alice I prefer as a villain, the 'Batwoman Supergirl Giant' was a good show of her potential.
Poison Ivy I prefer as a villain.

That's all that comes to mind at the moment.

For the rest, I pretty much prefer most of them to stay as villains. Redemption should be rare and significant IMO: and by significant I mean as close to permanent as you can get in comics.

[Restingvoice]

There are many Clayfaces they can afford to reform one
Killer Croc definitely already anti-hero anti-villain these days except in one shots
Harley and Ivy in line with what DC wants so I'm cool
Let's just get Mr. Freeze out of the way since he's a one trick villain
Man-Bat family is already Bat family at one or more points before they reboot him again and again
Holly Robinson shouldn't be evil in the first place
Willis Todd is on his way... I think? He's a small fry to begin with so it won't take a lot for him to change, it's just gonna take a lot for Jason to accept him
Kite-Man... is there a reason for him to still be a villain except to be comic relief?

Since Two-Face is defined by being binary he's the one guy we can afford to go back and forth, as in you can make him genuinely reform and genuinely evil and both works.

People I'm unsure of:
Riddler - Detective Riddler is a neat idea, but he's also really narcissistic and compulsive
Bane - Simone's Secret Six Bane is cute, but King of Santa Prisca's also awesome
Alice - I don't know her that much
James Jr. - The tease that he reformed is interesting but he's also cool as a serial killer I'm surprised I haven't heard any serial killer fangirl call him hot
Cluemaster - wouldn't it be nice if he apologize to Steph, it's not like he's a competent villain, but I also think you can still make a story of his wish to be a great villain

[the illustrious mr. kenway]

Manbat as I dug him as a member of Justice League Dark.

[Tzigone]

Man-Bat, because he was a good person who had something happen to him (don't like his wife evil, either).
Holly, because I think she got character-assassinated in the reboot, and because it's good for Selina to have her own circle/supporting cast that are not primarily Batman's.
Two-Face is a "maybe" - but if he reforms, let him stay reformed. I know his personality/theme more than most lends itself to flipflopping, but I get so tired of flipflopping.

If Kate's sister is evil right now, go ahead and reform her because I hate evil siblings as a general rule. But since I'm not following, I don't care that much.

I prefer Harley and especially Ivy as villains.

I like Selina starting as a thief (not murderer), then going hero. But I'm okay with her remaining a thief. But no more flip-flopping, please.

I'd like to erase James Jr. altogether. And I prefer Willis small-time and dead.

I agree Mr. Freeze is a one-trick pony. Moving him out the way is fine, anyhow you do it to me. I would however, like it using the B:TAS set where he was not trying to save Nora as Mr. Freeze. He though Nora was already dead then, and was out for revenge, not to save her.

I prefer Talia as a villain (but good to those she likes/loves, while fine with killing those inconvenient to her). Cluemaster definitely a villain, and most others as a villain.

Can't think of any I care about that I want reformed of the top of my head, anyway. Bad bad guys and good good guys is my general preference.

[Restingvoice]

Man-Bat, because he was a good person who had something happen to him (don't like his wife evil, either).
Holly, because I think she got character-assassinated in the reboot, and because it's good for Selina to have her own circle/supporting cast that are not primarily Batman's.
Two-Face is a "maybe" - but if he reforms, let him stay reformed. I know his personality/theme more than most lends itself to flipflopping, but I get so tired of flipflopping.

If Kate's sister is evil right now, go ahead and reform her because I hate evil siblings as a general rule. But since I'm not following, I don't care that much.

I prefer Harley and especially Ivy as villains.

I like Selina starting as a thief (not murderer), then going hero. But I'm okay with her remaining a thief. But no more flip-flopping, please.

I'd like to erase James Jr. altogether. And I prefer Willis small-time and dead.

I agree Mr. Freeze is a one-trick pony. Moving him out the way is fine, anyhow you do it to me. I would however, like it using the B:TAS set where he was not trying to save Nora as Mr. Freeze. He though Nora was already dead then, and was out for revenge, not to save her.

I prefer Talia as a villain (but good to those she likes/loves, while fine with killing those inconvenient to her). Cluemaster definitely a villain, and most others as a villain.

Can't think of any I care about that I want reformed of the top of my head, anyway. Bad bad guys and good good guys is my general preference.

James Jr. because of the evil sibling thing? ^^

[Tzigone]

James Jr. because of the evil sibling thing? ^^

Partially, yes. And partially because he basically doesn't exist in the narrative (even after his existence was established he was never [i]there[i], even in characters' thoughts) for so long before just popping up full-grown and evil. Now, to be fair, Barbara similarly popped up grown. But it was longer ago (s she's always existed to me), and we hadn't seen the same degree of Gordon's personal life then.