In my opinion they are bad movies period and no movies cannot be empirical
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Yeah, I don't think it is Feige that isn't being 'genuine' OR that the OP is posting in good faith at all.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Sure he does deserve credit for making the MCU. But he shouldnt be painted as a saint or white knight for hiring somebody of color
I will leave it at this since this thread is going nowhere. If Feige hired Chloe Zhao and Nia DaCosta and said "We are hiring these people because they are great directors and have great visions" and announced the casts as "these are great actors who will play great characters" similar to how he announced Whedon and the Russos I wouldn't make this thread. But no he goes an extra mile to say they hired them for diversity and inclusion. They make their skin color a point instead of their talents be the point. IDC if a filmmaker is a woman or person of color but Feige wants marvel to look inclusive while still barring people of color from significant leadership roles at the company. Again I don't think Feige is a racist and he certainly has produced some solid movies, he is just looking for new ways to make money and right now inclusion is big. You think Feige would be making these announcements in this spirit if we didn't have these big racial movements? You think the NBA and NFL and these other corporations would be putting political messages in their products if it wasn't for political movements going on right?
And I don't think it is commendable for Feige hiring diverse people because people do that all the time. My dad's staff at his business is very diverse yet nobody is singing him praise nor does he brag about it.
I can only speak for myself. I don't see Feige as some sort of Christ incarnate who can do no wrong nor do I think he makes every choice for altruistic reasons. I just like what he has accomplished with characters I only knew by name and the fact that MCU is the very reason why I started reading comics. Not every character acts the way they do in the comics but I can say he is successful at capturing the essence of the characters most of the time (not always). Also the fact that MCU movies are generally liked by both average movie goers and comicbook readers (this isn't really subjective when you consider box office, reviews by movie critics and general audience etc.) and lastly his willingness to take risks with properties like GOTG, Black Panther and Captain Marvel and turn them into household names makes me really appreciate him as the head of Marvel Studios.
but Box office receipts are not.
the VAST majority of the human beings who've sampled both sets of films VASTLY prefer the MCU. In addition, the VAST majority of movie-goers are not comic book fans. This is empirical evidence of the superiority of the MCU project both as commerce and as commercial art. MORE people have been reached and pleased by the work. The end. Your opinion to the contrary is valid in that it's yours but that's all it is.
Did you, though? Are you talking about Captain Mar Vell, his LEGACY, Genis Vell or his daughter Phylla Vell? What about Monica Rambeau? All of these were Captain Marvel prior to Carol taking the gig. Feige could legitimately have chosen any of them to take the role in the films. ANY.I did know Mar Vell and Star Lord before the movies. And because they are unknown means they don't deserve respect?
This is a nonsense conversation. You have no ground to stand on.
Fictional characters deserve nothing. not respect or anything else. they don't actually exist. They are for us to do with as we like. The end.