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    killing characters just to have them back later. Death counts, if you cheat it then what you should be afraid of?

    Titans are Justice League lite.

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    The biggest one for me is continuity altering events.
    It's all they do nowadays.

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    killing characters just to have them back later. Death counts, if you cheat it then what you should be afraid of?
    I've long since quit believing death counts, and I'd just like them to stop killing characters off altogether. Even it it does end up "counting", it'll be 4 or 5 years before I'll believe it, and so it won't make an impact.

    The biggest one for me is continuity altering events.
    This is very true. Although current continuity is a terrible mess, too, so I don't even care anymore.

    I'd like to add in: having heroes go bad. Either temporarily due to extreme circumstance, or due to brainwashing or turns-out-s/he-was-replaced or infected by something. Whatever. Sick of it.

    Someone else taking over for Bruce in Gotham. Whether it's Dick (so often, only sometimes as Batman) or Kate or Jim or Luke (if it plays out that way). Tired of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius View Post
    Wonder Woman as arm candy for Batman and Superman.

    Batman’s “prep time” and Superman’s “he’s not holding back this time” superpowers.

    Other colored Lantern Corps.
    A thousand times these

    Also agree with Evil speedsters and the Flash

    In the movie "Teen Titans Go" Robin says, "all heroes are born from a tragic backstory" That's another cliché we could end anytime

    And of course Reboot number X will finally fix all the problems with the DCU. That may be the ultimate cliché

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    "Nothing will ever be the same in the DCU!"

    Editors/Writers saying "We feel this will be a great jumping off point for new readers"

    Why is every teenager that dons a costume a martial arts expert?

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    Wonder Woman as arm candy for Batman and Superman.

    Batman’s “prep time” and Superman’s “he’s not holding back this time” superpowers.

    Other colored Lantern Corps.
    Fantastic choices. I'm in complete agreement.

    In the movie "Teen Titans Go" Robin says, "all heroes are born from a tragic backstory" That's another cliché we could end anytime
    Yes, please. Once upon a time, plenty of the heroes didn't have tragic backstories. And even some of the ones that were tragic already have had the tragedy level multiplied.

    Why is every teenager that dons a costume a martial arts expert?
    I kinda wonder if there is, in general, too much dependence on martial arts (specifically, Asian ones). Obviously the degree to which these are useful exaggerated to a ludicrous degree (against projectile weapons, multiple foes, etc.). But they're visually interesting. It's a visual medium, I admit. Though I don't think that type of thing (so dependent of movement) is as effective here as in animation or live action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    Fantastic choices. I'm in complete agreement.

    Yes, please. Once upon a time, plenty of the heroes didn't have tragic backstories. And even some of the ones that were tragic already have had the tragedy level multiplied.

    I kinda wonder if there is, in general, too much dependence on martial arts (specifically, Asian ones). Obviously the degree to which these are useful exaggerated to a ludicrous degree (against projectile weapons, multiple foes, etc.). But they're visually interesting. It's a visual medium, I admit. Though I don't think that type of thing (so dependent of movement) is as effective here as in animation or live action.
    Speaking of Asian characters, no more random Asian assassins or martial arts specialists.

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    Going off "Evil Superman" and "Batman vs. Superman" tropes. Dystopian elseworlds where seemingly every hero not named Bruce Wayne or Clark Kent loses all their agency/competency because dumb and dumber decided to fight like five year olds and the moral fabric of the universe revolves around them.

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    The justice system being so inept that fans clamor for their heroes to fundamentally change in character so they kill their enemies.

    The stripping of so many essential elements of a character that what's left is practically unrecognizable.
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    Keep in mind that you have about as much chance of changing my mind as I do of changing yours.

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    "We've got a new crossover where once again our universe is f'd up who can we kill this time?"

    " *insert character here* needs to grow up/mature/change so lets take away everything that their fans liked about them to appeal to fans who hated them!"

    "Let's rehash a story that was successful in the 90s again"

    "We need to bring back the ICONIC (i.e characters I liked more 'cuz I grew up with them) characters again!"

    "Oh look its the Joker which crazy hyper violent antic will he get up to next?"

    "Popular villain (especially if they're a woman)? You're an antihero now!"

    "Unpopular villain? Sorry you can't change or reform ever!"

    "Tonight on a Very Special Episode of *insert comic here* we are going to talk about *relevant social issue* and then turn into a punch up three issues later."

    " Look if its not the US lets treat everyone the same and by the same I mean a bunch of stereotypes"

    " I don't know anything about this religion but I need some convenient villains so let's go!"

    "Our future always sucks and looks like the Terminator"

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    Crisis.

    Just the word and anything related to it.
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    Superman turning evil

    Superman jobbing for whatever new villain show up on JL

    Whatever new villain/hero DC is pushing is labeled "stronger than Superman", as if that still carried any meaning after all those years of Superman jobbing

    Batman vs Superman, we all know who wins

    Hawkgirl questioning if sh really loves Hawkman or if is just destiny

    Sexy female villain becoming an antihero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzigone View Post
    Fantastic choices. I'm in complete agreement.

    Yes, please. Once upon a time, plenty of the heroes didn't have tragic backstories. And even some of the ones that were tragic already have had the tragedy level multiplied.

    I kinda wonder if there is, in general, too much dependence on martial arts (specifically, Asian ones). Obviously the degree to which these are useful exaggerated to a ludicrous degree (against projectile weapons, multiple foes, etc.). But they're visually interesting. It's a visual medium, I admit. Though I don't think that type of thing (so dependent of movement) is as effective here as in animation or live action.
    Kinda related to this but every Edgy hero wielding a Katana. DC, please...
    december 21st has passed where are my superpowers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OopsIdiditagain View Post
    Kinda related to this but every Edgy hero wielding a Katana. DC, please...
    How many of those does DC have? The only heroes I know that use katanas are Katana and Bushido and the latter hasn't been seen since Blackest Night where he was reanimated as a Black Lantern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    How many of those does DC have? The only heroes I know that use katanas are Katana and Bushido and the latter hasn't been seen since Blackest Night where he was reanimated as a Black Lantern.
    Damian
    Ghostmaker
    Deathstroke when he's more grey
    Red Hood
    Pretty sure Black Lightning got a katana in the current outsiders comic....
    december 21st has passed where are my superpowers?

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