"The New Republic got wiped out so soon" was just dumb

[Slowpokeking]

Why not just "The other troops were not quick enough to react so Leia's troops went to destroy the SK base before it's too late", then focus the conflict on the New Republic VS FO in 8 and 9?

[SuperiorIronman]

You’d have to rewrite the movie for that. No sense in it either as more bodies doesn’t add that much to crait and we get a lot of ships anyways for exegol.

[Slowpokeking]

You’d have to rewrite the movie for that. No sense in it either as more bodies doesn’t add that much to crait and we get a lot of ships anyways for exegol.

It would makes more sense and not just repeating the old formula.

[ChrisIII]

Apparentally the New Republic decided a few years after the Imperial defeats at Endor + Jakku to return to the pre-Clone Wars days of the Old Republic, where the Republic had no real major fleet or federal military apart from the Jedi. SO basically they became sort of complacent.The Resistance fleet for example are mainly decommissioned Republic ships for example (I think the "Galaxy fleet" from ROS is similar, a mix of private ship owners, mothballed fleets etc.). They did have some fighter squadrons and some capital ships but apparently that was mostly it. So they didn't really stand much chance against the FO except for the Resistance's efforts.

[Jackalope89]

Apparentally the New Republic decided a few years after the Imperial defeats at Endor + Jakku to return to the pre-Clone Wars days of the Old Republic, where the Republic had no real major fleet or federal military apart from the Jedi. SO basically they became sort of complacent.The Resistance fleet for example are mainly decommissioned Republic ships for example (I think the "Galaxy fleet" from ROS is similar, a mix of private ship owners, mothballed fleets etc.). They did have some fighter squadrons and some capital ships but apparently that was mostly it. So they didn't really stand much chance against the FO except for the Resistance's efforts.

That soon after just getting out from under the Empire's thumb? That's pretty stupid. Especially with the First Order around and what not.

[ChrisIII]

That soon after just getting out from under the Empire's thumb? That's pretty stupid. Especially with the First Order around and what not.

Yeah, it's a bit odd. The old EU novels actually went in the opposite direction, eventually even developing new model ships to replace the aging Rebel fleet (Which were largely secondhand ships).

The Disney NR apparentally didn't see the First Order as that much of a threat (Some of the novels also state that the NR is pretty much becoming just as corrupt as the OR) although certain senators were aiding the resistance (As Hux said) although at that point they were treated more as a watchdog group than the galaxy's last hope. Some NR senators were also backing the FO as well.

[BeastieRunner]

In real life, it often takes 3-4 regime changes before they settle.

People seldom realize the American Revolution was abnormal in that aspect.

[Slowpokeking]

In real life, it often takes 3-4 regime changes before they settle.

People seldom realize the American Revolution was abnormal in that aspect.

And it makes very little sense that the New Republic would focus all its forces in a few system after such a bloody war and realized weapons like the Death Star.

[K. Jones]

In real life, it often takes 3-4 regime changes before they settle.

People seldom realize the American Revolution was abnormal in that aspect.

People also don't tend to realize that the American Revolution didn't happen in a few weeks. There were 10-15 years of serious unrest, militia arming, incompetent governance by British jokers, taxes and strife prior, blockades, politicking with other European powers, the hiring of mercenary fleets. Then the AR itself was nearly a TEN YEAR WAR. Then when it was over (1783, five years after the declaration) a lot of shakedown. Then a mere 30 years after that Britain struck back and tried to mess it up again in 1812 - the next generation trying to work a comeback for the previous one.

Strictly speaking, while the war was around 8 years, with the near-decade beforehand of problems and the near inevitability (The Boston Massacre was in '70, the Tea Party in '73, and it wasn't until '88 that the US Constitution was finally ratified. There were kids who were born when the Colony was already in pretty stern defiance of the Crown, who grew up and then fought in the open rebellion as young men, then were mature men (and women) when the Constitution finally got settled on ... then were old men when the War of 1812 struck back.

So like, long story short and history lesson over ... I guess we can almost look at the Sequel Trilogy like the War of 1812, or something like that. It doesn't, nor should it, equate 1:1 or anything like that. But the generational aspect of it, the resentment, bitterness, so on ... that's a thing we see in real life all the time through history. WWII wouldn't have happened if Germany hadn't been so crushed to the point of desperation and "will do anything to get back on top". And that's just in reference to Germany specifically.

My question, possibly the better question, is like ... okay, so a NEO EMPIRE rises up to take advantage of life not being sunshine and roses, using connections and sage arcane stuff here and there to put it together and have a revival and get a critical hit against the New Republic. Question ... where are the Mandos at this point? Or the Neutral Worlds? Or the Chiss? Or the Grisk?

[Bruce Wayne]

Why not just "The other troops were not quick enough to react so Leia's troops went to destroy the SK base before it's too late", then focus the conflict on the New Republic VS FO in 8 and 9?

Because they wanted to go back to the Original Trilogy dynamic of plucky Rebels vs Evil Empire. The New Republic existing would have defeated that whole idea.