I don't remember about division of each Robins on Bruce Wayne Road Home (unless the comparison only between Dick and Tim), but I agree with you, the attempt to describe each Robin on different characterization is already happened before Tynion, although he is indeed the one who solidified it (also certain issue of Heroes in Crisis). I remember one issue on Tim Robin era that said about Dick saw Robin as thrill, Jason saw Robin as game, and Tim saw Robin as the way to become the best detective or something like that. Of course, that was simple untrue and plain insulting, just like every time they tried to put each Robins on certain boxes.
If there is gonna be a Batfam book, its basically gonna be Batman & his Underlings.
Oh yeah, I said that they can support a solo and a team book, which wasn't quite the best wording for what I was trying to get at I guess. But while these characters are no Batman, I think that the assumption that a character can be in too many places at once is misguided. So I don't see why they couldn't have a solo book, a team book, and a presence in a Batfamily book.
Division between the two Robins at the time? Not quite the same as the problem we have now.
It's the Dynamic Duo! Batman and Robin!... and Red Robin and Red Hood and Nightwing and Batwoman and Batgirl and Orphan and Spoiler and Bluebird and Lark and Gotham Girl and Talon and Batwing and Huntress and Azreal and Flamebird and Batcow?
Since when could just anybody do what we trained to do? It makes it all dumb instead of special. Like it doesn't matter anymore.
-Dick Grayson (Batman Inc.)
Ya, Tim the smart one, Dick the jock, Jason the disobedient dead one. Others have compounded on this over the years but thats how Dixon cut out a niche or thing for Tim. Thats why its such a prominent thing with Tynion, cause he's heavily influenced by that era and how they did things.
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I think everyone is thinking too deeply into what the book is. It's probably just going to be a Batman family containment book. A place where all these characters DC doesn't know what to do with grouped up in one place. That's its main purpose and then to tie into whatever Batman event Tynion is working on currently. As a Dick Grayson fan I hope he isn't part of it as he tends to get written pretty terribly when he is stuck with the other Robins or Batman family characters in this kind of book.
A Robin's book is the kind of thing people who are invested in Robins should never want.
Only tumblr wants such a book and it only works with the Batfamily we see on social media.
I don't want a Robins book and certainly nor one written by Tynion.
Tynion is a good writer except when you throw Tim in the mix, then suddenly Dick is telling Tim how he's the smartest, Damian is telling everyone how much of a blood son he is and Jason becomes a dumb fuck up who tries to get minors drunk.
No thank you.
But it is a demotion. Bruce's apprentices were his students, then they graduated and became capable of handling most (street level) threats on their own. Even more so with Nightwing since he became Nightwing to get out from under Batman's shadow. Batwoman got demoted. She was an independent vigilante, then she got put into a team with Batman, so in her second solo she was doing missions on Batman's orders. I don't really care, as long as all these characters are still fun to read, but the adult independent characters do lose some of their independence when they get put directly into a Batman led team.
With the newer non-adult characters getting put into team Batman, well, isn't that just their apprenticeship? Not a demotion if they're still in training.
As for Azrael, well Azrael doesn't need to be part of the Bat-Family, and was recently in another team, he's doing fine as far as I know, I only mention him for the sake of conversation. Batwing? I don't know, rumor is he's a Batman in Future State.
Anyway, who said Bat-Family exposure is. No one said that, they said being a Batman underling is a demotion.
Having finally read Punchline Special last night, I think it might be Cass, Steph, and Harper during Punchline's trial making sure key witnesses aren't attacked to try and keep them quiet or dissuade them from testifying against Alexis. A possible B-plot would be following Cullen and Bluff (reading it I realized his "name" is probably a card reference, similar to Joker) escalating their actions and catching the attention of Clownhunter.
I think the the Batman and Robin Eternal reference is a Chekhov's Gun point and that Cullen might be responsible for someone getting hurt in the future.
I'm currently reading Batman, Detective Comics, DCeased: Dead Planet, Dark Knights: Death Metal, Daredevil, Thor, Nightwing, The Rise of Ultraman and Red Hood and The Outlaws. I'm also trade-waiting the Hickman-era of X-Men comics.