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    Quote Originally Posted by Beadle View Post
    Is it weird that I think whenever Grundy is in one of his more powerful incarnations, he suddenly ceases to be a Bat-villain?
    For purposes of this thread, Solomon Grundy isn't a Batman villain, he's a Golden Age Green Lantern villain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendaran View Post
    The Six lineups without Hydroman have a "what do they do to Clayface that sticks" problem and the only potential resolutions are some kind of gross Sandman/Clayface merging fight that I don't want to think about, thank you ;p
    Electro might make short work of Clayface.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    Meanwhile Professor Cane has thrown his fear gas in a dumpster and keep trying to tell everyone he's the Marvel Scarecrow.
    Mr. Fear (Larry) would recruit him to be his pet scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    Electro might make short work of Clayface.
    I don't know about comic Clayface but in the cartoon is was a plot point that electricity couldn't hurt Clayface, and just organized his molecules a bit. He was just using that to fake his death.
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    Speaking of Electro, was he living electricity last time we saw him?

    Can any of the Batman rogues do anything to him?

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    I'm curious now. How well does Clayface handle being ripped (or blown apart) into tiny little pieces. Also, could you bake the clay so it's hard and he's unable to move?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    Speaking of Electro, was he living electricity last time we saw him?

    Can any of the Batman rogues do anything to him?
    He was dead the last time we saw him, and is now whatsherface whose name escapes me.

    Unless that too got changed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan2099 View Post
    I'm curious now. How well does Clayface handle being ripped (or blown apart) into tiny little pieces. Also, could you bake the clay so it's hard and he's unable to move?
    He eventually just reforms if you just blow him up or rip him apart, and Batman and Robin between them have in their fight history with the guy electrocuted him, shot him with missiles, set him on fire, and exploded him with massive explosions, and ultimately the guy just keeps on going. He's even just straight up tanked some of said explosions and fire attacks and what have you.

    I mean in arena fight conditions he can be ten counted, as far as it goes? But you really want to freeze or dissolve him more than anything.
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    To be fair, a combo of explosions and fire did extended stop Clayface that one time... However it required heating his "clay core", whatever that is, via infusing his entire body with methane, and exploding him so hard it blew up a mine, and otherwise "undermining his basic cellular structure."

    (And he was still able to slloooowwwwlllly reform afterwards)

    That feels out of the wheelhouse of a given Sinister Six lineup as far as the current discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiromi View Post
    Hell Carnage lose in Gotham is likely a Justice League level problem, or at least a heavy hitter on loan
    Eh, not really. Some individual league members can take him out solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slade1 View Post
    Eh, not really. Some individual league members can take him out solo.
    Carnage in Gotham is less Justice League level and more "the big Bat-family crossover of the year."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvel-Studios Rep View Post
    Only Batman villains that debuted in Batman's titles.

    Onl ySpiderman villains who debuted in Spiderman titles.

    In the case where the villain was a prep type they get it here. No one else does.
    Carnage attaches itself to Morlun. Game over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpandpointies View Post
    You'd need a lot of Bat-villains (outside of Clayface) to dogpile Kraven.

    If we use NEW 52 Bane and Manbat they are both like Class 5 capable of picking up and throwing a car. The latter explictly having said feat. The Talons individual strength seemed to be a tier below Batman at best (barring two exceptions), but a bunch probably get included as they still existed after the Court of Owls was defeated. They're great for swarming. And David Cain debuted in a Batman comic. Kraven can probably still outmuscle them all, but maybe with the right leverage and in the right positions...

    Quote Originally Posted by Shellhead View Post
    *Fancy Dan looks around nervously.*
    Ah, I completely forgot about the enforcers. I kinda feel like they count as 1 villain despite being a trio. As a group, I think they're dangerous!

    -Fancy dan from his first apperance blitzed 3 thugs and was noted as too fast to be tagged on jobs. Coupled with the fact he has a gun and he's like an armed Catwoman.

    OX has beyond peak human strength from his feats, and probably the same for durability.

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    Montana's Lassoing is unavoidable for regular people due to his control and speed. If Spider-man ever struggled to break the Lasso, it can probably hold a lot of Batman's rogues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy1 View Post
    Carnage attaches itself to Morlun. Game over.
    Why would Carnage ever do that? Isn't the symboite with and bonded to Cassidy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvel-Studios Rep View Post
    Why would Carnage ever do that? Isn't the symboite with and bonded to Cassidy?
    Symbiotes can choose to change hosts (or hosts can reject symbiotes).

    I mean Venom was joined to Flash Thompson for a while there.

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