Johnny Depp being let go from Fantastic Beasts

[CTTT]

is a real shame. I mean this whole lawsuit with the Sun writing an article about him being a wife beater. So, the judge says it's substantially true and now WB lets him go? This is in regards to his personal life, not his work ethic on the movie. If he'd had bad behavior on the set and was warned multiple times, i'd get it. I loved when he was cast as Gindlewald and was really looking forward to him playing this out over the 5 movies. I guess he gets the last laugh with getting paid, but I'm sure he'd have rather finished the movies. And now, they're going to go with another actor which'll probably suck. I guess they should have stuck with Colin Farrell. But, really this doesn't make sense. Sean Connery gave an interview in 1987 where he made some comments about how in certain situations there's justification to hit a woman (which btw, I don't agree with). But that didn't make Brian De Palma want to completely reshoot The Untouchables or hurt his Oscar chances. Sean Penn when he was married to Madonna had incidences with the paparazzi, but again, didn't hurt his career. Again this whole thing was about his personal life not bad behavior on the set. Johnny should be reinstated back into the role.

[Powerboy]

is a real shame. I mean this whole lawsuit with the Sun writing an article about him being a wife beater. So, the judge says it's substantially true and now WB lets him go? This is in regards to his personal life, not his work ethic on the movie. If he'd had bad behavior on the set and was warned multiple times, i'd get it. I loved when he was cast as Gindlewald and was really looking forward to him playing this out over the 5 movies. I guess he gets the last laugh with getting paid, but I'm sure he'd have rather finished the movies. And now, they're going to go with another actor which'll probably suck. I guess they should have stuck with Colin Farrell. But, really this doesn't make sense. Sean Connery gave an interview in 1987 where he made some comments about how in certain situations there's justification to hit a woman (which btw, I don't agree with). But that didn't make Brian De Palma want to completely reshoot The Untouchables or hurt his Oscar chances. Sean Penn when he was married to Madonna had incidences with the paparazzi, but again, didn't hurt his career. Again this whole thing was about his personal life not bad behavior on the set. Johnny should be reinstated back into the role.

The difference is the Connery interview was in 1987 and it was only an assumption on some people's parts that he had actually hit a woman rather than making the point that psychological abuse was worse. It also helped him that the interviewer was Barbara Walters who was widely disliked and considered a biased interviewer to the point of having a discussion with someone else right after showing the Connery interview just so she could imply things about what he said without his being there and essentially tell the audience what he "really meant" by what he said.

The Depp situation is current and something it seems he actually did. We are also in a very different culture where we have #MeToo and mass media to flood them with complaints and threats of boycotts and so on.

I get your point that, although it's a horrible thing, it's not work related and becomes questionable if it should affect his job.

However, it does raise the question of why the WB is taking a tough stance here but ignoring the Ezra Miller situation and keeping him on.

[gwhh]

I read in the daily mail. That since he worked ONE day. He get his full salary from the movie. 10 million plus.

[Frobisher]

I read in the daily mail. That since he worked ONE day. He get his full salary from the movie. 10 million plus.

Did they then mention the value of his house, by any chance?

[AnakinFlair]

Well, now they are in talks with Mads Mikkelsen to replace him as Grindelwald, which I think is actually better.

As for Depp, what sucks in this case was that he actually presented credible evidence that Heard was the abusive one in their relationship, which is why it was a surprise that the British court ruled against him. IMO, they were probably both abusive to one another, so if WB wants to fire Depp from Fantastic Beasts, they should also be firing Heard from Aquaman 2. Which they still may do, especially if the American courts rule in Depp's favor.

[CTTT]

And Mads has the thankless job of replacing Johnny who already established himself as the character for two movies. Plus FB 1 pulled the bait and switch with Colin Farrell's character switching to Johnny's form. Now they have to do it again, which is a problem story wise. It's curious to me how the first movie was released in 2016 and I think before it came out, JK Rowling had announced it would be a five film series. Then not long after, Amber's allegations came out. Makes me wonder if it was a case of professional jealousy too along with the abuse.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

Well, now they are in talks with Mads Mikkelsen to replace him as Grindelwald, which I think is actually better.

As for Depp, what sucks in this case was that he actually presented credible evidence that Heard was the abusive one in their relationship, which is why it was a surprise that the British court ruled against him. IMO, they were probably both abusive to one another, so if WB wants to fire Depp from Fantastic Beasts, they should also be firing Heard from Aquaman 2. Which they still may do, especially if the American courts rule in Depp's favor.

What I know about the British court system wouldn't fill a thimble, but perhaps they simply refused to believe women could be abusive like men, thus the ruling against Depp. But yeah, from everything I've read about the case, there was enough evidence to show Heard was the villainess of the piece and should be pink slipped from Aquaman 2.

[The no face guy]

is a real shame. I mean this whole lawsuit with the Sun writing an article about him being a wife beater. So, the judge says it's substantially true and now WB lets him go? This is in regards to his personal life, not his work ethic on the movie. If he'd had bad behavior on the set and was warned multiple times, i'd get it. I loved when he was cast as Gindlewald and was really looking forward to him playing this out over the 5 movies. I guess he gets the last laugh with getting paid, but I'm sure he'd have rather finished the movies. And now, they're going to go with another actor which'll probably suck. I guess they should have stuck with Colin Farrell. But, really this doesn't make sense. Sean Connery gave an interview in 1987 where he made some comments about how in certain situations there's justification to hit a woman (which btw, I don't agree with). But that didn't make Brian De Palma want to completely reshoot The Untouchables or hurt his Oscar chances. Sean Penn when he was married to Madonna had incidences with the paparazzi, but again, didn't hurt his career. Again this whole thing was about his personal life not bad behavior on the set. Johnny should be reinstated back into the role.

As a big fan of Johnny Depp and the Fantastic Beasts movies, it was disappointing to hear...but on the other hand, the failure of his defamation lawsuit has pretty much tarnished him as a spousal abuser.

I suppose what bothers me about the case is that we really haven't seen any hard empirical evidence that made the judge come to his decision. In short, was he simply relying on her verbal testimony and witnesses? Or were there medical records, pictures or something that is warranted for siding so strongly against Depp.

When Mel Gibson was excommunicated from Hollywood it was because there was hard verbal evidence that he was racist/Or at least using racist slurs. Although Johnny Depp hasn't helped his image with allegations of drug & alcohol abuse, and playing in a rock band, I haven't seen any empirical evidence (Smoking gun) to say that he is the main culprit at fault.

I have however seen verbal evidence of Amber Hurd admitting to abusing him, which makes me think she was part of the problem in a completely disfunctional relationship.

So I think we need to see the evidence from the court that swayed the judges decision before the public can decide to hang him out to dry.

[Zauriel]

Maybe Johnny Depp needs to retire from his acting career and enter the politics. The Republican Party, being the Party of Moral Values, could use a man like him.

[titanfan]

I suppose what bothers me about the case is that we really haven't seen any hard empirical evidence that made the judge come to his decision. In short, was he simply relying on her verbal testimony and witnesses? Or were there medical records, pictures or something that is warranted for siding so strongly against Depp.

It's not a criminal case. But from what it sounds like it was basically various witness testimony, plus presumably photos, texts etc.

I read a couple of descriptions from legal experts who were following the trial. Basically they weren't surprised at the outcome. Depp basically admitted to certain things, doing the drugs, sending the texts, drawing the graffiti in his blood etc. Her story (that these 14 incidents ended with abuse) seemed more likely than he doing all those crazy things and then drawing the line at hitting her. And that's basically what the judge saw here. Remember she wasn't on trial here, so whether she was also abusive or an instigator or whatever, we don't know.

[The no face guy]

It's not a criminal case. But from what it sounds like it was basically various witness testimony, plus presumably photos, texts etc.

I read a couple of descriptions from legal experts who were following the trial. Basically they weren't surprised at the outcome. Depp basically admitted to certain things, doing the drugs, sending the texts, drawing the graffiti in his blood etc. Her story (that these 14 incidents ended with abuse) seemed more likely than he doing all those crazy things and then drawing the line at hitting her. And that's basically what the judge saw here. Remember she wasn't on trial here, so whether she was also abusive or an instigator or whatever, we don't know.

Well that is a shame then, Johnny Depp is one of my all time favourite actors, but I refuse to support anyone who is a spousal abuser. I simply want (and require) the solid empirical evidence and facts before I make a decision.

We do have audio footage of Amber Hood admitting to abusing him, which suggests they were both participants in a disfunctional relationship...but it's hard to have respect for Johnny Depp at this point, he has all the money in the world, and chooses to pee he life away with hedonism and drugs. Not what I would be doing if I was a multi millionaire.

[Pinsir]

Now that Johnny Depp is disgraced, I can sleep contently knowing that Amber Herd will resume her role as Mera in Aquaman 2.

[Midvillian1322]

Maybe Johnny Depp needs to retire from his acting career and enter the politics. The Republican Party, being the Party of Moral Values, could use a man like him.

Lol only problem is he's super Liberal. So you would end up with eccentric Democrat with substance abuse issues and accusations of assault. Basically Donald Trump before he jumped ship to the right and started with all the racists birther crap