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    is a real shame. I mean this whole lawsuit with the Sun writing an article about him being a wife beater. So, the judge says it's substantially true and now WB lets him go? This is in regards to his personal life, not his work ethic on the movie. If he'd had bad behavior on the set and was warned multiple times, i'd get it. I loved when he was cast as Gindlewald and was really looking forward to him playing this out over the 5 movies. I guess he gets the last laugh with getting paid, but I'm sure he'd have rather finished the movies. And now, they're going to go with another actor which'll probably suck. I guess they should have stuck with Colin Farrell. But, really this doesn't make sense. Sean Connery gave an interview in 1987 where he made some comments about how in certain situations there's justification to hit a woman (which btw, I don't agree with). But that didn't make Brian De Palma want to completely reshoot The Untouchables or hurt his Oscar chances. Sean Penn when he was married to Madonna had incidences with the paparazzi, but again, didn't hurt his career. Again this whole thing was about his personal life not bad behavior on the set. Johnny should be reinstated back into the role.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    is a real shame. I mean this whole lawsuit with the Sun writing an article about him being a wife beater. So, the judge says it's substantially true and now WB lets him go? This is in regards to his personal life, not his work ethic on the movie. If he'd had bad behavior on the set and was warned multiple times, i'd get it. I loved when he was cast as Gindlewald and was really looking forward to him playing this out over the 5 movies. I guess he gets the last laugh with getting paid, but I'm sure he'd have rather finished the movies. And now, they're going to go with another actor which'll probably suck. I guess they should have stuck with Colin Farrell. But, really this doesn't make sense. Sean Connery gave an interview in 1987 where he made some comments about how in certain situations there's justification to hit a woman (which btw, I don't agree with). But that didn't make Brian De Palma want to completely reshoot The Untouchables or hurt his Oscar chances. Sean Penn when he was married to Madonna had incidences with the paparazzi, but again, didn't hurt his career. Again this whole thing was about his personal life not bad behavior on the set. Johnny should be reinstated back into the role.
    The difference is the Connery interview was in 1987 and it was only an assumption on some people's parts that he had actually hit a woman rather than making the point that psychological abuse was worse. It also helped him that the interviewer was Barbara Walters who was widely disliked and considered a biased interviewer to the point of having a discussion with someone else right after showing the Connery interview just so she could imply things about what he said without his being there and essentially tell the audience what he "really meant" by what he said.

    The Depp situation is current and something it seems he actually did. We are also in a very different culture where we have #MeToo and mass media to flood them with complaints and threats of boycotts and so on.

    I get your point that, although it's a horrible thing, it's not work related and becomes questionable if it should affect his job.

    However, it does raise the question of why the WB is taking a tough stance here but ignoring the Ezra Miller situation and keeping him on.
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    I read in the daily mail. That since he worked ONE day. He get his full salary from the movie. 10 million plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwhh View Post
    I read in the daily mail. That since he worked ONE day. He get his full salary from the movie. 10 million plus.
    Did they then mention the value of his house, by any chance?

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    Well, now they are in talks with Mads Mikkelsen to replace him as Grindelwald, which I think is actually better.

    As for Depp, what sucks in this case was that he actually presented credible evidence that Heard was the abusive one in their relationship, which is why it was a surprise that the British court ruled against him. IMO, they were probably both abusive to one another, so if WB wants to fire Depp from Fantastic Beasts, they should also be firing Heard from Aquaman 2. Which they still may do, especially if the American courts rule in Depp's favor.

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    And Mads has the thankless job of replacing Johnny who already established himself as the character for two movies. Plus FB 1 pulled the bait and switch with Colin Farrell's character switching to Johnny's form. Now they have to do it again, which is a problem story wise. It's curious to me how the first movie was released in 2016 and I think before it came out, JK Rowling had announced it would be a five film series. Then not long after, Amber's allegations came out. Makes me wonder if it was a case of professional jealousy too along with the abuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTTT View Post
    And Mads has the thankless job of replacing Johnny who already established himself as the character for two movies. Plus FB 1 pulled the bait and switch with Colin Farrell's character switching to Johnny's form. Now they have to do it again, which is a problem story wise.
    Maybe there won't be any explanation for the recast and it'll just be a new actor playing the role? It's not like they haven't done that before or that there needs to be an in-universe explanation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnakinFlair View Post
    Well, now they are in talks with Mads Mikkelsen to replace him as Grindelwald, which I think is actually better.

    As for Depp, what sucks in this case was that he actually presented credible evidence that Heard was the abusive one in their relationship, which is why it was a surprise that the British court ruled against him. IMO, they were probably both abusive to one another, so if WB wants to fire Depp from Fantastic Beasts, they should also be firing Heard from Aquaman 2. Which they still may do, especially if the American courts rule in Depp's favor.
    What I know about the British court system wouldn't fill a thimble, but perhaps they simply refused to believe women could be abusive like men, thus the ruling against Depp. But yeah, from everything I've read about the case, there was enough evidence to show Heard was the villainess of the piece and should be pink slipped from Aquaman 2.
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    British courts tend to side with the women in divorce cases.

    So much so that they throw out pre-nups. So, it’s not entirely surprising that they are siding with Amber Heard.

    That being said, I don’t really have any sympathy for Depp. Yes, he was abused but it seems that both he and Amber Heard were acting like brutes. In addition, Depp got his full salary for the movie, so he’s alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebLurker View Post
    Maybe there won't be any explanation for the recast and it'll just be a new actor playing the role? It's not like they haven't done that before or that there needs to be an in-universe explanation.
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    Always thought it was a pretty awful choice for the role anyway. And yes, please, can we all pretend that this awful movie never happened and that it was all a nightmare of Colin Farell?

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    Don't think the recent court ruling had anything to do with Amber Heard, because it was a libel case specifically between Depp and the Sun. Was there evidence that Depp had been libeled by the Sun or not? The court's answer was no. Which is full of implications, but not exactly the full story.

    In a way, its the worst kind of ruling for one's reputation, precisely because it only focuses on the one side. Any abuse Amber Heard did to make Depp act the way he did in response would be completely irrelevant to the case of whether what the Sun said about Depp was a lie or not. Its like going after the person who retaliates without considering the act that made him retaliate in the first place.

    I think Depp will be ok. As to the movie franchise, I don't really care because it seems almost like a train wreck waiting to happen anyhow.
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    Mads I think doesn't have the baggage of Depp (and also to a lesser degree) Ferell. He's played of course some really evil characters but by pretty much all accounts seems to be a decent guy in real life. I think the "Worst" thing he's done is frustratingly walk out of an audition for the Tim Story Fantastic Four (He was up for the role of Reed. Could've made a good Doom though...).
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    The entire Fantastic Beast """"""franchise"""""" should be shuttered, not only because those films are bad, but because they fill the coffers of JK Rowling, a notorious bigot and hate monger. It's time y'all get over Harry Potter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinsir View Post
    The entire Fantastic Beast """"""franchise"""""" should be shuttered, not only because those films are bad, but because they fill the coffers of JK Rowling, a notorious bigot and hate monger. It's time y'all get over Harry Potter.
    If half the stuff about Rowling is true and half the stuff about Depp is true, Depp is still much worse in my book. X-men franchise takes the crown, though

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