Fantastic Four #26 Franklin *spoilers*

[cranger]

This is just fine. The nature of his powers was always questionable. Even if it just ends up being Chuck doing the 'tough love' thing to keep him away for now.

[Kingdom X]

I'm confused why Xavier (previous preacher of coexistence) seems to be the only one actively banning humans from Krakoa. He also didn't let Juggernaut come in, but we know that Krakoa allows for human immigrants because Kyle and Shogo live there.

[cranger]

I'm confused why Xavier (previous preacher of coexistence) seems to be the only one actively banning humans from Krakoa. He also didn't let Juggernaut come in, but we know that Krakoa allows for human immigrants because Kyle and Shogo live there.

There is no master plan. It might just be some misconception about Hickman but nothing in these stories is about establishing some model society, everything is just done to tell slightly different, new stories.

[U.N. Owen]

So when are we getting a supervillain Franklin story?

If any character deserves to be turned into a villain, it's Franklin.

[Fokken]

I'm confused why Xavier (previous preacher of coexistence) seems to be the only one actively banning humans from Krakoa. He also didn't let Juggernaut come in, but we know that Krakoa allows for human immigrants because Kyle and Shogo live there.

Exactly.
I'm very eager for this to be addressed in X-Factor specifically.

Additionally, I am literally quaking in my boots for a story involving David/Prodigy bringing Tommy/Speed to Krakoa (Wiccan/Billy too, if they be so bold) to see what kind of insane reactions folks would have to the "Pretender's Children" (who I still embrace as mutants)

[baxer]

This is just fine. The nature of his powers was always questionable. Even if it just ends up being Chuck doing the 'tough love' thing to keep him away for now.

He wouldn't do it, he did everything to get him to Krakoa. They have Valeria and Reed to confirm it.

[Journey]

Exactly.
I'm very eager for this to be addressed in X-Factor specifically.

Additionally, I am literally quaking in my boots for a story involving David/Prodigy bringing Tommy/Speed to Krakoa (Wiccan/Billy too, if they be so bold) to see what kind of insane reactions folks would have to the "Pretender's Children" (who I still embrace as mutants)

See that's the type of mess/drama I would live for!! I literally brought up this storyline in the YA thread today.

[TheCape]

So when are we getting a supervillain Franklin story?

If any character deserves to be turned into a villain, it's Franklin.

What did he do to deserve that honor/punishment? (i don't had a lot of expirience with his characther outside Hickman)

[baxer]

What did he do to deserve that honor/punishment? (i don't had a lot of expirience with his characther outside Hickman)

IDK he just acts like kid Cable: full of hilself. He is also a case of teenage angsty and A-hole. Normal behavior for his age

There is no master plan. It might just be some misconception about Hickman but nothing in these stories is about establishing some model society, everything is just done to tell slightly different, new stories.

I have seem many times that humans were said to not be welcomed, including Doctor Strange. Seems like humans are only welcomed if they are sons or romantic partners

[Journey]

What did he do to deserve that honor/punishment? (i don't had a lot of expirience with his characther outside Hickman)

His entire run under slot is angst teenager, with a God complex thinking he's better than all around him, his powers or lack thereof have been his only personality trait for over a year now. Not really villain worthy but that would be more interesting than what he currently has going on.

[U.N. Owen]

What did he do to deserve that honor/punishment? (i don't had a lot of expirience with his characther outside Hickman)

He abused a blind lady and demanded to be thanked for it during the Herald of Doom Arc and War of the Realms tie in. You think I'm exaggerating, but I worked with enough blind people, mostly elderly, to call it abuse.

IDK he just acts like kid Cable: full of hilself. He is also a case of teenage angsty and A-hole. Normal behavior for his age

I wish he acted more like Cable. He was a Cable clone in the 90s and was enjoyable in a guilty pleasure fashion. This one is just trash.

His entire run under slot is angst teenager, with a God complex thinking he's better than all around him, his powers or lack thereof have been his only personality trait for over a year now. Not really villain worthy but that would be more interesting than what he currently has going on.

Entitlement leading to villainy is certainly better than a god complex screaming into the void using circular reasoning.

[President Togekiss]

And also: Why does losing his powers make his X-Gen disappear?

Shouldn't it cause everything he's done with his powers to disappear?

Like, the whole multiverse.

Exactly. If he warped reality to make himself a mutant, then HE IS A MUTANT, that's the new reality. The things he makes don't dissapear when he makes them. If he gave himself the X-gene (which other characters have done before) than he is a mutant. Also, why would a baby warp reality to be a mutant? Franklin didn't suddently start being refered as a mutant in his teens. He's been canonically a mutant in comics ever since he was at least a toddler.
I doubt he even knew what mutants were. And it's not like he cared all that much even much more recently.

[Askani's Flame]

In the Days of Future Present crossover, 5-year-old Franklin tried to make himself not a mutant anymore, and his powers were draining away then too.

"plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"

Well actually that was his alternate future self from 811 who was draining Franklin's powers (as well as Rachel's) to exist so that wasn't the case.

Meanwhile I wonder if what is actually happening behind the scenes is that Reed and Xavier have been chatting and they concocted this story for an unknown reason which will be revealed later. There HAS to be something as brewing as the amount of resources and marketing put into launching Hickman's line.

But if not this is some bullshit given we were subjected to that awful mini this year.

[Viteh]

I am guessing that Xavier part was either Franklin imagining it, or Xavier putting on an act. He'll get his powers and x-gene back later on, and then he'll realize he doesn't need to be a mutant and should just be called Alex because minority safe spaces are bad.

[President Togekiss]

I personally think Speed would be a great addition to the X-universe, specially since Quicksilver (who Tommy more or less "Inherits" from) has always been much more of an X-men character than an Avengers one.