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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    I don't read (non X of Swords) Excalibur so I'm confused between all these different worlds.

    To summarise, is this what I perceive to be true?

    If a mutant dies in Arakko or Krakoa, he can be resurrected.

    If a mutant dies in Otherworld, he can't be resurrected.

    Arakko is actually on Earth but not on Otherworld ?
    Arakko is on another planet. There is a scheme that explains it well in the first issue, it is like

    Earth (Krakoa) -----> Otherworld <---- (Arakko)Amenth.

    Otherworld is what is between the two planets. To cross from Arakko to Krakoa you have to go through Otherworld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericng View Post
    I don't read (non X of Swords) Excalibur so I'm confused between all these different worlds.

    To summarise, is this what I perceive to be true?

    If a mutant dies in Arakko or Krakoa, he can be resurrected.

    If a mutant dies in Otherworld, he can't be resurrected.

    Arakko is actually on Earth but not on Otherworld ?
    I too would very much appreciate further insight into this specifically, thanks fam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fokken View Post
    I too would very much appreciate further insight into this specifically, thanks fam.
    Neither of those places is in Otherworld. That's all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frobisher View Post
    Neither of those places is in Otherworld. That's all there is to it.
    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Arakko is on another planet. There is a scheme that explains it well in the first issue, it is like

    Earth (Krakoa) -----> Otherworld <---- (Arakko)Amenth.

    Otherworld is what is between the two planets. To cross from Arakko to Krakoa you have to go through Otherworld.
    It is confusing with all of the new names. But it helps to think of each place having an opposite parallel version:

    - Earth and Amenth are worlds
    - Krakoa and Arakko are islands on the worlds
    - Avalon and Dryador are Otherworld realms that were conquered by mutants

    The Hellions had to travel from Krakoa (Earth) to Avalon (Otherworld) to Dryador (Otherworld) to Arakko (Amenth) and then back again.

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    The inherent problem with mutants is such varied power sets. Specifically, there too many telepaths, which is already innately an overpowered power set. Heck, if Professor Xavier can detect Franklin Xavier (in the latest Fantastic Four issue) think about Krakoa, then essentially telepaths can do anything.

    Even if none of the minds of the mutants who made it back to Krakoa were backed up, them being attacked by Sinister should have been detected by someone. The smoke he used blocks cameras, but someone on the island should be able to detect the strong emotional state of being murdered by Sinister.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefthanded View Post
    The inherent problem with mutants is such varied power sets. Specifically, there too many telepaths, which is already innately an overpowered power set. Heck, if Professor Xavier can detect Franklin Xavier (in the latest Fantastic Four issue) think about Krakoa, then essentially telepaths can do anything.

    Even if none of the minds of the mutants who made it back to Krakoa were backed up, them being attacked by Sinister should have been detected by someone. The smoke he used blocks cameras, but someone on the island should be able to detect the strong emotional state of being murdered by Sinister.
    Perhaps not? He managed to block Psylocke's powers. Maybe that smoke screen was a literal cancellation dead zone of sorts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lefthanded View Post
    The inherent problem with mutants is such varied power sets. Specifically, there too many telepaths, which is already innately an overpowered power set. Heck, if Professor Xavier can detect Franklin Xavier (in the latest Fantastic Four issue) think about Krakoa, then essentially telepaths can do anything.

    Even if none of the minds of the mutants who made it back to Krakoa were backed up, them being attacked by Sinister should have been detected by someone. The smoke he used blocks cameras, but someone on the island should be able to detect the strong emotional state of being murdered by Sinister.
    Telepaths are under-powered. Because their power is so inconvenient, they are constantly nerfed. Someone like Mystique, for example, would be no threat if telepaths were actually as powerful as their potential suggests.

    Most of the time, itís a useless power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by useridgoeshere View Post
    Telepaths are under-powered. Because their power is so inconvenient, they are constantly nerfed. Someone like Mystique, for example, would be no threat if telepaths were actually as powerful as their potential suggests.

    Most of the time, itís a useless power.
    Agreed. Magnetoís magnetism is usually correctly portrayed, but telepaths are constantly neutered and requires suspension of disbelief. The worst is how an untrained Red Skull with Prof Xís brain is a world threatening menace, yet the good guys telepaths are all easily overcome (here with Sinisterís lies and manipulation, and in the past with all enemies coming equipped with mental protection)

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    That's cause ubiquitous telepathy is a crappy power that writers just love throwing around with no regard.

    It's diet Reality Warping, which is also a power that would suck if not restricted to the barest minimum of characters.

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    Can we talk about Manny’s mini beard??
    Calling Wanda a Pretender is Trumpian at best

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    Quote Originally Posted by danielsan52 View Post
    Can we talk about Manny’s mini beard??
    Can we not?
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    'Why?' Just to see the disappointment on your corn-fed, gee-whiz face, Superman. And because a great dark voice on the edge of nothing spoke to me and said you all had to die. There is no 'Why?'

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    The package Sinister has from Psy is from Fallen Angels #6. Itís Apoth or the remains of Apoth?
    Last edited by Ahri; 11-19-2020 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Edit pic

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    Since many characters have protection against telepaths, its no surprise that it seems downplayed. Mystique and Gambit are just a few characters that could give 2 craps about a telepath....why would Sinister (a man who has made telepaths and knows strengths and weaknesses to the power) be exempt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Arakko is on another planet. There is a scheme that explains it well in the first issue, it is like

    Earth (Krakoa) -----> Otherworld <---- (Arakko)Amenth.

    Otherworld is what is between the two planets. To cross from Arakko to Krakoa you have to go through Otherworld.
    Well, that makes it much clearer. But what about the confusing realms of Otherworld that another poster said.

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