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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    And also made her super unlikeable .
    Agreed I was waiting for Peter to tell her off one day
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    I am surprised at all this interest in Anna Watson. Look not every supporting character needs to be cool or interesting. Anna is a nice person who loves May, and Mary Jane, and also cares for Peter. That's enough.

    Give her more baggage for the sake of drama, as in the Fox Cartoon where they made a stupid mistake with that dynamic, and you ruin and compromise that. Why would May Parker want Peter and MJ get together, or be friends with Anna if she has such a negative and dark view about Peter? It doesn't make any sense. In the BND era, they sorta hinted that after Peter and MJ broke up, that May and Mary Jane also became cool in the aftermath...yet somehow May and Anna Watson were still friends. I can see May and Anna keeping a friendship while avoiding talking about some stuff but I can't imagine Anna wouldn't side with her niece first and foremost...so it didn't make sense. And I guess ultimately they dropped that plot.

    (IN retrospect it's kind of amazing how BND kept making Aunt May more unlikable than she was before. I can't believe that a May Parker who adored Mary Jane and was friendly to Peter during their separated phase of the marriage would suddenly cool at MJ over a Post-BND breakup. It made no sense. Then Dan Slott made her a bigot for being prejudiced towards Anna Maria Marconi. A plot he wanted to do earlier by making May racist but had to be talked out of because people reminded her of her activism in the Len Wein era. It's like May became Fox Animation Anna Watson.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    I am surprised at all this interest in Anna Watson. Look not every supporting character needs to be cool or interesting. Anna is a nice person who loves May, and Mary Jane, and also cares for Peter. That's enough.

    Give her more baggage for the sake of drama, as in the Fox Cartoon where they made a stupid mistake with that dynamic, and you ruin and compromise that. Why would May Parker want Peter and MJ get together, or be friends with Anna if she has such a negative and dark view about Peter? It doesn't make any sense. In the BND era, they sorta hinted that after Peter and MJ broke up, that May and Mary Jane also became cool in the aftermath...yet somehow May and Anna Watson were still friends. I can see May and Anna keeping a friendship while avoiding talking about some stuff but I can't imagine Anna wouldn't side with her niece first and foremost...so it didn't make sense. And I guess ultimately they dropped that plot.

    (IN retrospect it's kind of amazing how BND kept making Aunt May more unlikable than she was before. I can't believe that a May Parker who adored Mary Jane and was friendly to Peter during their separated phase of the marriage would suddenly cool at MJ over a Post-BND breakup. It made no sense. Then Dan Slott made her a bigot for being prejudiced towards Anna Maria Marconi. A plot he wanted to do earlier by making May racist but had to be talked out of because people reminded her of her activism in the Len Wein era. It's like May became Fox Animation Anna Watson.)
    I think the interest is because of how Anna is kind of an understated focal point to Mary Jane and even May and that connection led to Peter and MJ's relationship, so it's kind of interesting that so little has been done with her.

    Although you're probably more likely to hear about MJ's dad and her issues with him than you are MJ's aunt who she lives with next to Peter. She hasn't been in any of the movies and I don't think MJ ever mentioned her in the PS4 games (although she was basically adult Ultimate MJ, who had her mom, so she might not have had an Aunt Anna of note).

    When we were talking about BND making Aunt May unlikeable, I thought we were going to talk about when Mr. Negative turned her into this rotten, mean, old lady .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    I think the interest is because of how Anna is kind of an understated focal point to Mary Jane and even May and that connection led to Peter and MJ's relationship, so it's kind of interesting that so little has been done with her.

    Although you're probably more likely to hear about MJ's dad and her issues with him than you are MJ's aunt who she lives with next to Peter. She hasn't been in any of the movies and I don't think MJ ever mentioned her in the PS4 games (although she was basically adult Ultimate MJ, who had her mom, so she might not have had an Aunt Anna of note).

    When we were talking about BND making Aunt May unlikeable, I thought we were going to talk about when Mr. Negative turned her into this rotten, mean, old lady .
    Mary Jane Watson is an important character and her family life is important to explain her and how it plays into her relationship with Peter. Her having a messy family life with closer relations to Aunts and Cousins than her own father and sister explains why she would want a family with Peter since she is on the peripheries of her own family, and a little closed off from them. Her relationship to Anna makes sense since Anna lives in NYC and that's where Mary Jane wants to be, live, and make her home. So that explains why she's drawn to Peter and away from her own family...the fact that Kristy has a pair of s--ty parents herself and is drawn to MJ (who gets to be for her what Anna was to her) also makes sense. More than that isn't necessary. Mary Jane's family needs to be as mundane and humdrum as possible to contrast with Peter's world as Spider-Man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman27 View Post
    Agreed I was waiting for Peter to tell her off one day
    He did eventually.

    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Give her more baggage for the sake of drama, as in the Fox Cartoon where they made a stupid mistake with that dynamic, and you ruin and compromise that. Why would May Parker want Peter and MJ get together, or be friends with Anna if she has such a negative and dark view about Peter?
    If Peter and MJ make each other happy, that should be good enough for May. Their relationship is none of Anna's business if it is a good one.

    MJ's family doesn't get focused on often so maybe that is what people potentially see in Anna. You don't have to make her like her Fox cartoon counterpart to make her interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    Mary Jane Watson is an important character and her family life is important to explain her and how it plays into her relationship with Peter. Her having a messy family life with closer relations to Aunts and Cousins than her own father and sister explains why she would want a family with Peter since she is on the peripheries of her own family, and a little closed off from them. Her relationship to Anna makes sense since Anna lives in NYC and that's where Mary Jane wants to be, live, and make her home. So that explains why she's drawn to Peter and away from her own family...the fact that Kristy has a pair of s--ty parents herself and is drawn to MJ (who gets to be for her what Anna was to her) also makes sense. More than that isn't necessary. Mary Jane's family needs to be as mundane and humdrum as possible to contrast with Peter's world as Spider-Man.
    This is the part that I don't understand. What is "mundane" and "humdrum"? Why does it need to be normal in comparison to Peter's?

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    I'm surprised that (as far as I remember) she's not the mother of any of Kraven's children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    If Peter and MJ make each other happy, that should be good enough for May. Their relationship is none of Anna's business if it is a good one.

    MJ's family doesn't get focused on often so maybe that is what people potentially see in Anna. You don't have to make her like her Fox cartoon counterpart to make her interesting.
    Well, MJ is like a daughter to her so I wouldn't say it's none of her business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCN24454 View Post
    I'm surprised that (as far as I remember) she's not the mother of any of Kraven's children.
    She also apparently sleep with one of his children if i remember correctly
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    She also apparently sleep with one of his children if i remember correctly
    As you do ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    As you do ...
    She has a type i suppose.

    Is also kind of bizarre that Calypso has nothing to do with his resurrection, then again maybe Kraven's wife did that on purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolutionary_Jack View Post
    I am surprised at all this interest in Anna Watson.
    For me, and maybe for others, the interest stems from the post-Clone Saga period: Aunt May was still dead but the comics were trying to move away from Clone Saga stuff and back into more of a classic feel -- which meant Peter needed an old lady from which he needed to hide his secrets! I actually enjoyed her quite a lot during that era, and I still think JMD's Mad Jack from those days was potentially supposed to have some connection to her.

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    Remember Jackpot

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    Quote Originally Posted by your_name_here View Post
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    Well, she has an excuse; she's dead. Can't really do much like that.

    Then again, her replacement hasn't been seen much.

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