If there is a proper story, addressing OMD in the future (and last remains is just planting seeds for it), it's going to be a long and painful waiting period for many of us...
What would a trick be? It would be Jackpot on steroids: One big middle finger to the readers. Throw in the references to The Other and Silk, and it would be like two years of taking bad tasting medicine and curing nothing. By the way, I can think of one other time where Marvel decided to spend a long time tricking the audience and it was the Clone Saga and that turned out rather badly both financially and as a storyline. I said it before and I will say it again: If OMD is not erased now, you can expect to wait until Amazing 1000 ( at best) to see it erased and I will certainly finished following or even commenting on Spider-Man long before that happens.
Ha, reading through this thread I have a feeling a lot of people would have been much happier if they skipped the .LR issues and just read 50-55. I mean, Last Remains was stated to be able to be read with just the core issues, and .LR are side stories on tertiary characters only, like MJ/Norman, the order of the Web, and Sin-Eater. You get in the .LR exactly what was promised.
I never picked up a .LR issue expecting any progression with Kindred or Spider-Man, that's not what it is there for. So commenting on a Wednesday after a .LR issue release that your tired of Kindred being dragged out is a bit disingenuous, nothing in the .LR books are dragging it out because they are not meant to progress that story. You could just skip it and pick up a bi-monthly released book. This arc is done in 3 months which most books only have 3 issues for. So in the time span of a normal book of 3 issues, you have 6, with 5 supplemnetal books you were told you could skip and you know they don't deal with Peter or Kindred.
I'm not sure what people were expecting from an .LR release...LOL.
Okay but how are we supposed to know that? It’s been so long since Hunter happened but if I recall corrected, the .HU issues actually furthered the story and seemed important. Right now these LR issues are pointless. And honestly it’s all a waste of 4 dollars every week for a story that moves slowly. That’s a factor people don’t seem to understand; if these issues cost 1.99 or even 2.50 I wouldn’t complain. But these issues are 3.99 a pop and it’s practically a weekly event. On Spider-Man comics alone I’ve spent around 20 dollars a month since sins rising. That might seem like peanuts to many but when I can say “man I have to use the bathroom, let me take today’s issue to read while I do my business” and I finish the comic before even a tingle of an attempt at a bowl movement... there’s a problem.
Um, because it was literally explained at the end of issue 50 and further explained at the end of 50.LR so you knew what they were about?
The .HU issues didn't further the story at all, they were complete side plots and skippable. The .LR issues are named such because they are also supplemental / background plots. You can read the story without them and many would be more happy if they did, clearly. No one is holding a gun to your head to get the tie-ins, they are completely optional and just for those who want and/or are enjoying them, someone like me for example. Maybe it's because I knew what they were for so all my expectations have been met going into them. I think maybe people really didn't know what they were about.It’s been so long since Hunter happened but if I recall corrected, the .HU issues actually furthered the story and seemed important. Right now these LR issues are pointless. And honestly it’s all a waste of 4 dollars every week for a story that moves slowly. That’s a factor people don’t seem to understand; if these issues cost 1.99 or even 2.50 I wouldn’t complain. But these issues are 3.99 a pop and it’s practically a weekly event. On Spider-Man comics alone I’ve spent around 20 dollars a month since sins rising. That might seem like peanuts to many but when I can say “man I have to use the bathroom, let me take today’s issue to read while I do my business” and I finish the comic before even a tingle of an attempt at a bowl movement... there’s a problem.
I think you could have saved some money and been much happier with this story if you skipped the .LRs.
Last edited by Vortex85; 11-26-2020 at 05:53 AM.
Well, they were his idea and honestly, if I were a writer, and I had all these behind the scenes plots in my head and knew the whole story, I would also think it would be important too... because that would be my vision of all that the story entailed. However, not everyone will feel the writer's full vision of the story / full scope is all interesting to them. So I think they made a good choice to put it as bonus content into tie-ins and not the main book, as it would have been too bogged down with all this side plots to feel like a good/focused story.
I really do like the option of going back and reading just the core issues if I want to get to the point and focus on just Peter and Kindred, or if I'm in the mood I may go to the .LRs to get something that feels bigger in scale.
I may be one of the few people who like the .HU / .LR system for this reason. As someone who has enjoyed the .LR issues, I appreciate the full vision and I'm glad Spencer decided to put it out there. For me, it would have been a shame to never see some of the MJ/Norman conversation, and the Astral Plane stuff, both extra details I really liked. Other people may not care and that's fine too.
One big difference between the HU and LR issues are, the HU off-shoots where all one-shots which told their own story. One issue would be about the Gibbon while the next would feature The Lizard. They serve to expand on the action.
The LR issues however tell their own story. It's a parallel story detailing events that occur in the main book. But rather than expand the action, they tell a different story which is kind of like the right hand to Last Remain's left hand.
There's balance there.
Otherwise, I need to read the last few issues, I should be getting them tomorrow so I can finally give my thoughts on what's been happening.
One thing I preferred about the HU issues was the more in-depth character work and focus with Spider-Man in the background. Meanwhile we have the LR issues with the relevant MJ and Norman stuff and the Order of the Web who are basically window dressing who could've probably been scaled down or replaced by characters more relevant to Peter.
I actually only really thought the Gibbon one was worthwhile for the Hunted storyline. The Vulture one was really pointless/boring in my opinion. We could have had that issue explained in a few panels. The Black Cat one was meh. I actually like LR more than HU overall so far, though I think the Gibbon was the best single issue overall.