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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    like America did with Nazi scientists?
    And a lot of people were not OK with that…

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    like America did with Nazi scientists?
    Not your best comeback. America's Nazi problem has not gone without comment.

    Red Skulls a Nazi tho
    And yet, you don't see the Avengers offering him membership. Let's leave the whataboutism at the door please. It's pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostedemma View Post
    I feel like if Xavier is going to have people like Emplate, Sinister, Empath and etc roam around Krakoa freely knowing that they willingly tortured and abused many X-men enough to leave them deep psychological scars than he can suffer having his step brother who used to bully him during their childhood around.
    Last time I read a story about those two, they have made peace…

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExodusCloak View Post
    Mutant faahion , mutant cuisine. It seems Emma has all the leaders in art working for her. If Dani said that its incorrect. Mutants had a culture before Krakoa hence why Wanda commited genocide

    There is also mutant history, science, medicine etc
    A strange argument… it’s not because people have a culture that they have the same culture. Yet all mutants come, I think, from all over the world, so each one has a different culture.

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    I wonder if all the people that condemn Krakoa because it welcomes every mutant realise how hypocritical they are; basically their stance is if "you erred in the past you should not have redemption", and that's exactly the authoritarian states (and USA) philosophy when it comes to crime, "if you commit a crime you are evil and only deserve punishment" (no wonder USA have 1 citizen out of 100 in jail and are on of the worst first world country when it comes to crime and murders). Krakoa giving a chance to everyone is more of a Christian approach than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterParked View Post
    I wonder if all the people that condemn Krakoa because it welcomes every mutant realise how hypocritical they are; basically their stance is if "you erred in the past you should not have redemption", and that's exactly the authoritarian states (and USA) philosophy when it comes to crime, "if you commit a crime you are evil and only deserve punishment" (no wonder USA have 1 citizen out of 100 in jail and are on of the worst first world country when it comes to crime and murders). Krakoa giving a chance to everyone is more of a Christian approach than anything else.
    Right because the X-fandom and Krakoa's supporters are so forgiving of other characters they think have wronged the X-men or mutants. How many threads did we have on this site about punishing the Scarlet Witch for m-day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterParked View Post
    I wonder if all the people that condemn Krakoa because it welcomes every mutant realise how hypocritical they are; basically their stance is if "you erred in the past you should not have redemption", and that's exactly the authoritarian states (and USA) philosophy when it comes to crime, "if you commit a crime you are evil and only deserve punishment" (no wonder USA have 1 citizen out of 100 in jail and are on of the worst first world country when it comes to crime and murders). Krakoa giving a chance to everyone is more of a Christian approach than anything else.
    Redemption implies making up for the past sins or at least being repentant. None of the villains on Krakoa displayed either of these qualities. In fact, some of them are already doubling down and proving themselves to be utterly undeserving of redemption.

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    Christianity throughout history has never been the bastion of uprightness it purports to be.

    It's seems stupid to categorise Krakoa as this -ism or that -ism simply because it's clearly drawing from (the best traits of?) a number of -isms. Which makes sense as it's trying to become something new and different in and of itself.

    I suspect Kurt's new religion will be much the same...the best tenets of all/most/some religions combined to form something new for those Krakoans who have very little or no faith, that they can follow and be a part of, and for those who while adhering to their "birth faith" can still be open to and appreciate a different ideology.
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    Is it so difficult to understand that a person can feel part of several cultures at the same time?

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    In our current real world mindset where we HAVE to be one thing, otherwise..."appropriation!" yes, apparently inclusivity is a very difficult concept for some to grasp.
    We are MUTANT...One people. One tribe. One family...Krakoa and Arakko, FOREVER!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devaishwarya View Post
    In our current real world mindset where we HAVE to be one thing, otherwise..."appropriation!" yes, apparently inclusivity is a very difficult concept for some to grasp.
    That's not what the complaints about cultural appropriation are about.

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    I know...but it is the basic notion applied by the Twits who don't know or understand it themselves. That's my point. There is a vast difference between appropriation and appreciation, and wanting to be a part of something different and interesting because it speaks to you...that is lost on the majority of "Westerners."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    Not your best comeback. America's Nazi problem has not gone without comment..

    not a comeback just a fact. The country that many heroes in the 616 live in/protect is guilty of some shady sh!t so DON'T come for KraKoa
    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Z View Post
    And yet, you don't see the Avengers offering him membership. Let's leave the whataboutism at the door please. It's pathetic.
    ??
    Yeeeeah I wasn't advocating for his membership Im just saying it'd be impossible to redeem a villain that outright hate
    Quote Originally Posted by Glio View Post
    Is it so difficult to understand that a person can feel part of several cultures at the same time?
    Damn its super weird that there's people who really can't grasp it.
    troubling.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterParked View Post
    I wonder if all the people that condemn Krakoa because it welcomes every mutant realise how hypocritical they are; basically their stance is if "you erred in the past you should not have redemption", and that's exactly the authoritarian states (and USA) philosophy when it comes to crime, "if you commit a crime you are evil and only deserve punishment" (no wonder USA have 1 citizen out of 100 in jail and are on of the worst first world country when it comes to crime and murders). Krakoa giving a chance to everyone is more of a Christian approach than anything else.
    The truth of the matter is most people only care about the IDEA of their own redemption.
    Don't let anyone else hold the candle that lights the way to your future because only you can sustain the flame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BroHomo View Post
    not a comeback just a fact. The country that many heroes in the 616 live in/protect is guilty of some shady sh!t
    Which they've fought against.


    Yeeeeah I wasn't advocating for his membership Im just saying it'd be impossible to redeem a villain that outright hate
    So why is Sinister getting a pass?

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