Silver Surfer vs Takion

[Slade1]

I know Takion (post crisis; I don't think there is a current version) is similar to Surfer but with more emphasis on time and energy powers.

How does this go?

[Nik Hasta]

Probably a stalemate to be honest.

Takion is incredibly hard to put down, he's been like molecularly disassembled and converted into anti matter and come back in pretty short order.

His powerset is epic level energy manipulation, he's even messed with the Speed Force and Green Lantern Willpower Energy, but he lacks the higher end scale feats that the Surfer has. I'm unsure if he can mess with the Power Cosmic.

To my mind neither can really do much to the other. Surfer is too durable and Takion too good at recovery and not really needing a physical form.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Probably a stalemate to be honest.

Takion is incredibly hard to put down, he's been like molecularly disassembled and converted into anti matter and come back in pretty short order.

His powerset is epic level energy manipulation, he's even messed with the Speed Force and Green Lantern Willpower Energy, but he lacks the higher end scale feats that the Surfer has. I'm unsure if he can mess with the Power Cosmic.

To my mind neither can really do much to the other. Surfer is too durable and Takion too good at recovery and not really needing a physical form.

If he's made of energy the Surfer could just absorb him. It's unlikely Takion is going to be able to fix that.

[Nik Hasta]

If he's made of energy the Surfer could just absorb him. It's unlikely Takion is going to be able to fix that.

I think his own evil clone tried that on him and it didn't work.

I'd have to look up the feats though, it's been a long time since I read anything with Takion in it haha.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

I think his own evil clone tried that on him and it didn't work.

I'd have to look up the feats though, it's been a long time since I read anything with Takion in it haha.

Well I guess my point is Takion is weaker than the Surfer as far as that goes, so his own clone being unable to do that doesn't mean much.

[Slade1]

Well I guess my point is Takion is weaker than the Surfer as far as that goes, so his own clone being unable to do that doesn't mean much.

I'd wager that Takion is more powerful than Surfer at energy control.

[Slade1]

His control of energy is epic. I believe he actually held off the Godwave for a time that was destroying the universe. He's the avatar of the Source and has potentially unlimited access to energy through it.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

His control of energy is epic. I believe he actually held off the Godwave for a time that was destroying the universe. He's the avatar of the Source and has potentially unlimited access to energy through it.

"potentially" isn't generally a workable thing for a Rumble.

Holding off the Godwave is also... alright, but then you have the Surfer doing things like manipulate the Crunch, which is the result of the ever-expanding universe pushing against the ever-contracting negative zone. Cost him his life, sure, but the energy was enough to completely overwhelm and erase two entities in the same bracket as Galactus.

Guess my point is, Surfer's ability to manipulate energy is frankly stupid; and Takion is made of energy.

[Nik Hasta]

If he's made of energy the Surfer could just absorb him. It's unlikely Takion is going to be able to fix that.

Okay, did a little digging, that might not be a good idea on Surfer's part.

His own evil opposite, Stayne, who had the same powers as him did a similar trick on him; after Takion converted her into anti-matter and disassembled her on an atomic level, she responded by forcing her discorporated energy into him and made a spirited attempt at taking control of his body from the inside.

Takion has specifically the same powers so could probably do the same thing. Surfer does not want to put what essentially amounts of a sentiment metric ton of esoteric energy into his body, that won't go well for him.

He's also able to stop time locally or... "step between the moments," whatever that means.