honestly if Jon had been kidnapped instead of twisting Clark and Lois into callous idiots that would have fixed like 80 percent of the problem I have with Bendis Jon.
honestly if Jon had been kidnapped instead of twisting Clark and Lois into callous idiots that would have fixed like 80 percent of the problem I have with Bendis Jon.
Using Reed Richards might not be the best example since I've got my own slew of issues with him too. Dude's shady as fuck and always has been. Good intentions be damned lol
I wouldn't trust Reed Richards alone with my kid in a place where I can't follow them. Half the time I don't even trust Reed Richards alone with his own kids XD
Or just have Jon willingly go with him while his parents are too occupied with something else to notice. There were a million other ways they could have done this without taking the route that they did. I wish they didn't do it at all but there were still ways they could have done it without me losing my respect for Clark and Lois.
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If Bendis isn't acknowledging stuff that 'happened' before his run, it doesn't really matter to the story all that much.
I mean, broad strokes, Jor-El moved heaven and earth to send his only son away from death. By default that's someone who's random appearance would have clout to it.
I think it works fine, and has weight. Bendis' whole run reads really well in a big full swoop.
He handwaved a lot of it away though. That was obvious from Jor El's first appearance in the Man of Steel mini. I think some of it was meant to be dealt with in either Doomsday Clock or it's aftermath, but it is clear that Jor El in Man of Steel is in a significantly different place than the Jor El in Oz Effect. It wasn't handled well, but it's misrepresenting things to not take that into account.
Having Jor-El kidnap Jon would have helped with the Clark and Lois being out-of-character thing, but regardless of how that went down, aging Jon up at all still robbed fans of the character to enjoy tons of different aspects of the character: his unique perspective, his relatability, the opportunity to see him grow. Bendis made use of one of the laziest tropes in comic storytelling and that sucked, independently of everything else awful he did with Jon.
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Yay! Hopefully he puts some effort into the less defined aspects of Clark's world, like Almerac, the 5th dimension, etc., as well as creating his own new corners of the Super-verse.* He's doing lots of worldbuilding stuff ala Last God.
Don't care either way for Jon (though I think potential was lost when they aged him up) but I'm intrigued by them not putting the ID back yet; there's potential in this that I think should be explored. So many "future" tales of Superman have his identity go public, and it feels like he's at the right point in his life where this is actually sorta viable. Whether PKJ can actually pull it off and make it entertaining, true to character, and respectful of the Clark-Superman dichotomy and Kal's dual lives.....that remains to be seen but I'm pleased the effort is being made. Better than just recycling the same old sh*t again.* He's not deaging Jon, he's not putting the secret identity back in the bottle.
Booo! I appreciate the backups will feature these guys, but come on, you need Lois (at the very least) there.* We're not going to see much of Lois or the Daily Planet crew due to the cosmic scale the run operates on, the purpose of the backups is to highlight them because of that (and Sean Lewis won't be writing all of those).
Okay? Not much to go on but it sounds like it could have potential.* The event makes the universe "bigger and older" by expanding something PKJ considers underserved; it might affect other books but it's a Superman thing first and foremost.
Booo! Not surprising though. I never expected Karen to show up in this. But I hope it actually happens.* Asked about Power Girl he noted that while he doesn't have plans for her, she'd theoretically fit well in the event so it's not impossible she could show up.
Excellent taste. At least we know that this guy can recognize the good Super-writers from the ones who just don't get him, or want him to be someone he isn't.* He listed Waid and Morrison as his favorite Superman writers, with an additional mention of how much he likes Ron Marz's take
Noooo!* Krypto isn't in his stuff
Honestly I'm liking most of what I'm hearing. Not everything, but a lot. Definitely think I'm gonna give his run a few issues. Love me some cosmic Superman.
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This is Bendis loose continuity issue. Bendis takes the parts of continuity he wants to use, but he would ignore others aspects connected to that.
I really doubt Bendis expected Doomsday Clock will especifically correct the Jor-El issue. At most, Bendis will use the constant reboots concept in Doomsday Clock to explain why Jor-El is different.
Definitely intrigued by this cosmic journey Clark will embark on. PKJ is saying a lot of the things I like. Funny enough my first thought was the sword of Superman which I hated and that was the same for PKJ lol. Hearing this coupled with that image of the gladiator Clark is freaking awesome. Let's hope this can be put into proper action.
sure, plus to top it off the general redundancy of having both him and Conner be the same age, the bizzare lack of impact his years of captivity should have had on the character but didn't, the scar he got with no explanation. There are almost no pros to what Bendis did to the character. The remaining 20 percent of it all still irks me, but it's how he wrote Clark and Lois that really ticks me off.
Yup, this certainly would have worked a million times better. The fact that Bendis didn't take this route (or even consider this route) just goes back to what is patently obvious. He just doesn't get Lois. Or alternatively, he really dislikes Lois to the point where it didn't matter to his story overall. Either way, not a good look.
Y'all still *really* overestimate Clark and Lois' skills as parents.
Bendis didn't roll out that whole Jor-El thing like he should've; it was rushed and didn't take the time to really delve into the situation or the decision making processes, but Clark is not and has never been very good with family. Tomasi's perfect Superdad is the example of Clark being out of character, not the other way around.
He lets his ten year old son run off-planet with Damian Wayne. You *really* think Clark would pass up the opportunity to let Jon have the relationship with Jor that Clark never got?
But after two years of debating this point there's really no purpose to continuing it.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.