PKJ Action Comics Discussion and Spoilers

[Vordan]

Would be cool if we actually saw that.

Thought that was the thing people loved about Rebirth. If that didn’t sell you on it, that’s Tomasi and Jurgens’ fault. Rebirth was pretty much the Clark & Jon show with Clark training Jon.

exactly, that garbage fire of a story legitimately hurts my ability to enjoy all 3 characters in the main universe. Its a stain on all of them.

Well considering Johns, Jurgens, and Tomasi eliminated any suffering or screwups from Superman by restoring more or less the Byrne Superman who had everything delivered to him on a platter, a screw up of that magnitude works well to show how flawed Clark & Lois are.

[Prime]

Thought that was the thing people loved about Rebirth. If that didn’t sell you on it, that’s Tomasi and Jurgens’ fault. Rebirth was pretty much the Clark & Jon show with Clark training Jon.



Well considering Johns, Jurgens, and Tomasi eliminated any suffering or screwups from Superman by restoring more or less the Byrne Superman who had everything delivered to him on a platter, a screw up of that magnitude works well to show how flawed Clark & Lois are.

Then came Bendis lol

[Celgress]

Then came Bendis lol

Indeed, then came Bendis the Defiler.

[Prime]

Indeed, then came Bendis the Defiler.

Everything changed when Bendis began to write

[OpaqueGiraffe17]

Thought that was the thing people loved about Rebirth. If that didn’t sell you on it, that’s Tomasi and Jurgens’ fault. Rebirth was pretty much the Clark & Jon show with Clark training Jon.



Well considering Johns, Jurgens, and Tomasi eliminated any suffering or screwups from Superman by restoring more or less the Byrne Superman who had everything delivered to him on a platter, a screw up of that magnitude works well to show how flawed Clark & Lois are.

Plenty of ways to have Clark screw up in ways that make sense. This didn't even accomplish that, given that Bendis repeatedly pushed the ridiculous narrative that what happened between Lois, Jon and Jor-El was nobody's fault, ugh.

[SiegePerilous02]

So the only thing I'm kind of aware of with Johnson is he's writing the Last God for Black Label. Is that any good? I've been meaning to get the trade whenever it's out because using the label to explore other genres should be encouraged.

[LordUltimus]

Honestly, I expect Challenge of the Supersons to pull a Superman & Lois and crush the main Superman books in sales.

[Vordan]

So the only thing I'm kind of aware of with Johnson is he's writing the Last God for Black Label. Is that any good? I've been meaning to get the trade whenever it's out because using the label to explore other genres should be encouraged.

He’s done a bunch of stories in Annuals and what not, but The Last God and TotDM: Batman Hush issues were very good at worldbuilding while also telling a compressed story from what I’ve seen. Makes me excited to read his Future State stuff.

Honestly, I expect Challenge of the Supersons to pull a Superman & Lois and crush the main Superman books in sales.

Not likely. Super Sons was down in the 30ks pretty quickly and I just checked ComiXology, the first Challenge issue didn’t even make the top 10. Jurgens Lois & Clark was a brand new series while the New 52 issues were up in the 30s, of course it initially far outsold them. Whether it could’ve sustained those kinds of sales is another matter.

[Frontier]

Plenty of ways to have Clark screw up in ways that make sense. This didn't even accomplish that, given that Bendis repeatedly pushed the ridiculous narrative that what happened between Lois, Jon and Jor-El was nobody's fault, ugh.

Yeah, I'm not against flaws if they make sense with the character and within the narrative, but not if it comes off nonsensically or make the character look really bad, let alone just get dropped as just "not that big a deal."

[Robanker]

Honestly, I expect Challenge of the Supersons to pull a Superman & Lois and crush the main Superman books in sales.

The book never blew up the monthly sales charts. Maybe trades, but it was a case of a very loud, small fanbase.

[Vordan]

Hey so anyone who wants to get a feel for what Johnson will be doing in his Future State books, and what to expect for his Superman run, here’s two books that feature done in one storytelling from him. I picked them because they’re chock full of worldbuilding while also managing to tell a story:




Read the Aquaman and Hush books and they’re both great, going to read The Last God when the last two issues come out.

[Robanker]

Hey so anyone who wants to get a feel for what Johnson will be doing in his Future State books, and what to expect for his Superman run, here’s two books that feature done in one storytelling from him. I picked them because they’re chock full of worldbuilding while also managing to tell a story:




Read the Aquaman and Hush books and they’re both great, going to read The Last God when the last two issues come out.

Oh he did that Aquaman annual? Dope! I've heard great things about The Last God as well.

[Vordan]

Oh he did that Aquaman annual? Dope! I've heard great things about The Last God as well.

Yeah I’m going through a bunch of stuff he did that I didn’t remember for him. His Aquaman stuff was a good spin on the typical spoilers:

Black Mercy

end of spoilers story. He’s done a bunch of stories in anthologies too. He did an Animal Man story, a Batman story, a Batman & Green Arrow story, a Green Arrow & Black Canary story, and a Sinestro story in New Year’s Evil. So far all the stuff I’ve read makes me think he’ll do a good job.

[Robanker]

Yeah I’m going through a bunch of stuff he did that I didn’t remember for him. His Aquaman stuff was a good spin on the typical spoilers:

Black Mercy

end of spoilers story. He’s done a bunch of stories in anthologies too. He did an Animal Man story, a Batman story, a Batman & Green Arrow story, a Green Arrow & Black Canary story, and a Sinestro story in New Year’s Evil. So far all the stuff I’ve read makes me think he’ll do a good job.

He did that one too? Damn, you're killing me.

Alright man, now sell me on Deathstroke. I'm halfway interested because I enjoyed Superman's guest spot in it, so seal the deal.

[manwhohaseverything]

The book never blew up the monthly sales charts. Maybe trades, but it was a case of a very loud, small fanbase.

The books were doing as good as supergirl and was better than legion and young justice.Make of that what you will.