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    Question Which writer has been the most influential to Scarlet Witch's character?

    Recently, someone made a statement in a comic book review that, "Brian Michael Bendis made Scarlet With more interesting then she's ever been in her very very lengthy ...debuted in issue #4 of the Original X-men series by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee.... very storried career. And no one has made her more interesting then Brian Michael Bendis. Wanda Vision is about that run."


    I wanted to pose this quesiton to you my fellow Comic Book Historians. Who has been the most influential writter for Wanda Maximoff's character?

    Stan Lee?
    Jack Kirby?
    Bendis?
    James Robinson?
    Roger Stern?
    Kurt Busiek?


    Others? None?


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    For good or ill Bendis has probably had the biggest impact on the character. Wanda has never been the same since Disassembled. Everything that's happened to the character since then has been as a result of that story. She's also never been part of the main Avengers roster since either. After that it's probably Byrne which set up everything that Bendis was so influenced by in West Coast Avengers and arguably had looming over her ever since.

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    For good? Probably Stern/Robinson/Busiek.

    In a negative way? Bendis.

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    Bendis has the biggest impact on her yes, but I don't know in what kind of planet that guy's from to say that impact made her more interesting, as all Bendis did was amplify her powers to a boringly overpowered level, and be that mentally unstable chick who essentially commited mutant genocide, then just, not show up after that for a while... But I guess being in limbo is more interesting than having more of that Disassembled nonsense happen, but neither option is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukmendes View Post
    Bendis has the biggest impact on her yes, but I don't know in what kind of planet that guy's from to say that impact made her more interesting, as all Bendis did was amplify her powers to a boringly overpowered level, and be that mentally unstable chick who essentially commited mutant genocide, then just, not show up after that for a while... But I guess being in limbo is more interesting than having more of that Disassembled nonsense happen, but neither option is good.
    It gave the Mutants a boogeyman to rally against and demonize, so I guess that worked out for them in the long run...

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    That statement seems like trolling, since the Scarlet Witch hardly even appeared under Bendis - she's in Avengers Disassembled for only a few pages, and not much more in House of M. She's what her fans call a "plot device," just someone who was chosen to create plot developments for other characters (destroying the Avengers, creating a new reality, wiping out mutants). She could be replaced by anyone in those stories. The only characterization she has there is "crazy" and even that is borrowed from John Byrne.

    Anyway the most influential writer for Wanda is probably Steve Englehart, who wrote her in Avengers 105-152 and then in the second Vision & the Scarlet Witch series. He took over the character and her romance with Vision from Roy Thomas, but he made her more assertive and more powerful, and introduced the idea of her studying real magic to make the "witch" part of her name literal. Most of the writers who did well with the character, like Kurt Busiek, have been influenced by what Englehart did with her.

    Update: Well, look who already posted about that while I was writing my post!

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    Bendis of course but Robinson in a more positive way for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbus View Post
    For good or ill Bendis has probably had the biggest impact on the character. Wanda has never been the same since Disassembled. Everything that's happened to the character since then has been as a result of that story. She's also never been part of the main Avengers roster since either. After that it's probably Byrne which set up everything that Bendis was so influenced by in West Coast Avengers and arguably had looming over her ever since.
    This wasn't really influential to her character, because there was no character to be found there really. What little you can gather was not accurate to the character and then she was thrown away for 5-7 years. It's an infamous story involving her, but it didn't have much to do with her. It definitely had an impact on her current status, but had nothing to do with character either. As it was just a hack treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    I wanted to pose this quesiton to you my fellow Comic Book Historians. Who has been the most influential writter for Wanda Maximoff's character?
    Steve Englehart.

    Look at who she was before he started writing AVENGERS, and look at who she was afterward.

    Even the people who reacted against what he did are still being influenced by what he did with the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Busiek View Post
    Steve Englehart.

    Look at who she was before he started writing AVENGERS, and look at who she was afterward.

    Even the people who reacted against what he did are still being influenced by what he did with the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Busiek View Post
    Steve Englehart.

    Look at who she was before he started writing AVENGERS, and look at who she was afterward.

    Even the people who reacted against what he did are still being influenced by what he did with the character.

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    I agree with this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurt Busiek View Post
    Steve Englehart.

    Look at who she was before he started writing AVENGERS, and look at who she was afterward.

    Even the people who reacted against what he did are still being influenced by what he did with the character.

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    Steve Englehart, Roger Stern, Kurt Busiek.

    I would love to have that character back...

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    The answer, like it or not, is Bendis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCape View Post
    One of thw weirdest take that i had seen is that Wanda is an incompetent f@#$ up with her powers and that works better that way, wich probably comes of not caring about her before Bendis. Really a lot of the people that like Bendis were most likely indefferent to her before 2004.
    If that guy is indifferent to her before Bendis came along, then he definitely can't say she was better written because of Bendis since he doesn't actually known her and is just wanking Bendis for the sake of it, it'd be like if who's indifferent to Spidey reads OMD, and says that story is what made Peter a better character, or someone who's indifferent to Wally West says that Heroes in Crisis is what made him a better character, and I mention such examples because Disassembled was Wanda's OMD/HiC (Before either too, disgracefully enough), as it left this awful, awful mark on the character that's just as bad as those two, I don't even know the character that much and I can tell that lol.

    Also, just noticed this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Jabare View Post
    Recently, someone made a statement in a comic book review that, "Brian Michael Bendis made Scarlet With more interesting then she's ever been in her very very lengthy ...debuted in issue #4 of the Original X-men series by Jack Kirby and Stan Lee.... very storried career. And no one has made her more interesting then Brian Michael Bendis. Wanda Vision is about that run."
    Unless Wanda/Vision is gonna be about Wanda being a flat character, who's overpowered and batshit crazy, I really doubt that...

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