Steppenwolf (DCEU) vs. Kurse (MCU)

[The Arbiter]

Arena.

1: H2H only.

2: With standard equipment.

[Tomzilla]

If we follow Whedon's JL (ohgawdtheinevitablewhatiscanondebates), Steppenwolf is a physical powerhouse. He overpowered Wonder Woman and Aquaman (even stopping the latter's offensive attack with one hand), and effortlessly tore Cyborg in half. Arguably, Steppenwolf's most impressive strength feat occurred in the flashback scene where we see him strike the earth with enough force it triggered a powerful shockwave, cracked open the ground, and started turning everything around him into molten slag. I'd say this feat is at the very least comparable to Infinity War Thor striking Wakandian soil with Stormbreaker.

With that said, Kurse is one of those understandably-forgotten-yet-truly-devastating-all-the-same powerhouses. Before Deadpool 2, I'd say Kurse was unofficially the best live-action Juggernaut. He effortlessly deflected Mjolnir (whereas an enraged Hulk couldn't even budge it), instantly bludgeoned Thor with his punches, and appeared unstoppable. In terms of brute strength, Kurse is easily on par with Thanos.

So in Scenario 1, I'm leaning towards Kurse.

Scenario 2 is a bit trickier (would Steppenwolf's Motherbox count as standard equipment?), but the end result is the same regardless. Kurse is in possession of Dark Elf Black Hole Grenades, which seals it.

[The Arbiter]

Excellent breakdown.

I would agree that Kurse is probably around Thanos in terms of sheer physicality.

I would suggest that SW has a decent speed advantage however. Deflecting arrows casually and catching missiles and so forth.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Is there any general consensus on the speed of MCU Mjolnier? What with Kursen rather trivially smacking it away.

To compare to Stephen's missile catch.

[The Arbiter]

Is there any general consensus on the speed of MCU Mjolnier? What with Kursen rather trivially smacking it away.

To compare to Stephen's missile catch.

In some scenes, its breaking orbit quickly and cracking windows by flying close by. Usually these scenes are after it's been moving for a bit to pick up steam.

In other scenes with less buildup, its barely moving next to Quicksilver.

[Stigmazilla]

In some scenes, its breaking orbit quickly and cracking windows by flying close by. Usually these scenes are after it's been moving for a bit to pick up steam.

In other scenes with less buildup, its barely moving next to Quicksilver.

Maybe it flies at arrow speeds generally but can increase speed when Thor is far away and needs it. Typically in combat it doesn't seem too fast.

[big_adventure]

In some scenes, its breaking orbit quickly and cracking windows by flying close by. Usually these scenes are after it's been moving for a bit to pick up steam.

In other scenes with less buildup, its barely moving next to Quicksilver.

It pretty much goes as fast as it needs to for a good scene. Kind of like most things in movies. :-)

[The Arbiter]

It pretty much goes as fast as it needs to for a good scene. Kind of like most things in movies. :-)

That is very true. =)

[big_adventure]

On the Rumble, Steppenwolf doesn't want any part of Kurse. I don't think SW can remotely hurt the guy, and the opposite is definitely not true, given that SW feels hits from Diana and Arthur, two characters who are significantly weaker than Kurse.

[choptop]

On the Rumble, Steppenwolf doesn't want any part of Kurse. I don't think SW can remotely hurt the guy, and the opposite is definitely not true, given that SW feels hits from Diana and Arthur, two characters who are significantly weaker than Kurse.

WW isn't that much weaker then Base MCU Thor she was able to fight doomsday took hits from Superman etc and all kurse still wins but saying SW can't hurt him at all just isn't true.

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

WW isn't that much weaker then Base MCU Thor she was able to fight doomsday took hits from Superman etc and all kurse still wins but saying SW can't hurt him at all just isn't true.

Comparatively speaking, Wonder Woman was able to tackle Steppenwolf through a wall and keep up with him well enough to get him to drop his "this one is mine" statement and involve the Parademons who were there. Thor going all out only managed to turn Kurse's head and body slightly.

Steppenwolf is in trouble.

Also, for consideration, the fight with Thor starts out with Thor flying at Kurse hammer first, only for Kurse to turn around and bat him away before he could connect. Which might help his speed, slightly.

[Hiromi]

WW isn't that much weaker then Base MCU Thor she was able to fight doomsday took hits from Superman etc and all kurse still wins but saying SW can't hurt him at all just isn't true.

Great, so she's almost as strong as the guy who could do all of didly against Kurse except get his ass utterly handed to him


WW could hurt SW, Thor could do absolutely nothing to Kurse. Hell even getting stabbed through his chest only seemed to annoy him

[Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh]

Great, so she's almost as strong as the guy who could do all of didly against Kurse except get his ass utterly handed to him


WW could hurt SW, Thor could do absolutely nothing to Kurse. Hell even getting stabbed through his chest only seemed to annoy him

Well yea, do you know how hard bone armor is to clean?

[The Drunkard Kid]

In Round 2, Steppenwolf has a much stronger chance if he can smack Kurse with one of the elf's own black hole grenades.

[choptop]

Great, so she's almost as strong as the guy who could do all of didly against Kurse except get his ass utterly handed to him


WW could hurt SW, Thor could do absolutely nothing to Kurse. Hell even getting stabbed through his chest only seemed to annoy him

Again all I'm saying is SW can hurt kurse nothing else.