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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post


    Kael Ngu's THOR 15 variant for Unknown Comics
    sweet cover
    "So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post


    Kael Ngu's THOR 15 variant for Unknown Comics
    Damn this is beautiful

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodThor View Post
    Pretty much sexist, but at least it shows back then how seriously Marvel took Thor's power level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frontier View Post
    Pretty much sexist, but at least it shows back then how seriously Marvel took Thor's power level.
    I think it's more than that. Shooter was an Avengers guy - he had two runs on the comic - whereas X-Men was exclusively Claremont's baby, the team being intrinsically linked to the writer, and it was already becoming the best-selling Marvel title. I think Shooter felt having an X-Man beat up the most powerful Avenger would grant the X-Men status at the expense of the Avengers. Don't forget that when Shooter wrote Secret Wars he had Spider-Man easily slap the X-Men down on-page (and he had Spidey calling Wolverine 'a joke'), which I felt was very much Shooter putting the X-Men (and Claremont) in their place.

    It's to do with perceived status which can affect the popularity of a character/title, imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    I think it's more than that. Shooter was an Avengers guy - he had two runs on the comic - whereas X-Men was exclusively Claremont's baby, the team being intrinsically linked to the writer, and it was already becoming the best-selling Marvel title. I think Shooter felt having an X-Man beat up the most powerful Avenger would grant the X-Men status at the expense of the Avengers. Don't forget that when Shooter wrote Secret Wars he had Spider-Man easily slap the X-Men down on-page (and he had Spidey calling Wolverine 'a joke'), which I felt was very much Shooter putting the X-Men (and Claremont) in their place.

    It's to do with perceived status which can affect the popularity of a character/title, imo.
    I think we see that a lot lately...

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    Your observations in regards to Secret Wars '84 is most interesting.

    Between battles, Shooter also allowed some "canoodling with the enemy" between Thor & the Enchantress

    Last edited by K7P5V; 05-22-2021 at 04:46 PM. Reason: Added Clarification.

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    Kinda wish they'd redo Secret Wars, only with a more evenly balanced hero villain ratio. Thor held off most of the villains later in the mini

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Hulk View Post
    Btw, cates just answered my post on twitter, about the mystery of Mjolnir:

    @JasonVerve

    Does this new arc of Thor shed some light about Mjolnir's mystery (even if just a bit) or it's gonna happen further in the future? Thanks!

    @Doncates

    It does indeed

    https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/...403786754?s=20
    Mjolnir is a mystery. It’s the only one of the 8 hammers (the 7 others mentioned Fear Itself) that survived Odin overthrowing Cul in prehistory. And not even Odin can control its magic, and its many powers, as we have seen in Avengers #1-14 Volume 1. It would be great if this is resolved.

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    I honestly don't care about Mjölnir.

    couldn't care less about it in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GodThor View Post
    I honestly don't care about Mjölnir.

    couldn't care less about it in fact.
    I wanna reach out to Donny Cates and tell him i will pay 5 times as much for each issue of Thor if we can take a pause for the next 2 years at the very least where we don't have stories revolve about Mljonir or whether or not Thor can lift it... just treat it as any other weapon for like 2 years, is that too much to ask?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackolover View Post
    Mjolnir is a mystery. It’s the only one of the 8 hammers (the 7 others mentioned Fear Itself) that survived Odin overthrowing Cul in prehistory. And not even Odin can control its magic, and its many powers, as we have seen in Avengers #1-14 Volume 1. It would be great if this is resolved.
    Not to mention this is a new and unpredictable Mjolnir. In the mail section from one of the firts issues of the run, it says it contains old magicks and new ones.

    Also, adding to the mystery, it's said to be most powerful than ever, as we can see in the official promotional cards of Cates' run:


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    Quote Originally Posted by GodThor View Post
    I honestly don't care about Mjölnir.

    couldn't care less about it in fact.
    Quote Originally Posted by Intothevoid View Post
    I wanna reach out to Donny Cates and tell him i will pay 5 times as much for each issue of Thor if we can take a pause for the next 2 years at the very least where we don't have stories revolve about Mljonir or whether or not Thor can lift it... just treat it as any other weapon for like 2 years, is that too much to ask?
    Yeah, I am so tired of Mjolnir drama.

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    Who is the black woman?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micabe View Post


    Who is the black woman?
    I think that's prehistoric Valkyrie, Runa.

    she was introduced in King in Black: Return of the Valkyries.
    Last edited by GodThor; 05-23-2021 at 11:09 AM.

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    Well, at least she has her own name now .

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