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    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    T’Challa made a nice appearance in FF for Doom’s wedding. Seems like he’s looking for a non-aggression pact with Latveria. He had the usual tension with Namor but other than that he’s just a spectator to the events of the issue. No interesting moments with any of the FF outside Ben. Looks like we’ll get to see him in action next issue given how things ended up. Nothing spectacular but I did like his regalia even if it’s a bit basic.

    I’m really looking forward to this return to espionage for the character because we often don’t get to see T’Challa the statesman. But with Wakanda more involved in global security than ever before and a variety of geopolitical hotspots cropping up in Avengers, there’s a rich storytelling landscape to explore with his character.
    You think he'd try to spread more of Wakanda's soft power?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    T’Challa made a nice appearance in FF for Doom’s wedding. Seems like he’s looking for a non-aggression pact with Latveria. He had the usual tension with Namor but other than that he’s just a spectator to the events of the issue. No interesting moments with any of the FF outside Ben. Looks like we’ll get to see him in action next issue given how things ended up. Nothing spectacular but I did like his regalia even if it’s a bit basic.

    I’m really looking forward to this return to espionage for the character because we often don’t get to see T’Challa the statesman. But with Wakanda more involved in global security than ever before and a variety of geopolitical hotspots cropping up in Avengers, there’s a rich storytelling landscape to explore with his character.
    Good, Ill have to check that issue out as I was expecting Shenanigans. I hope he doesnt seek peace with Doom. I want vengeance and retribution lol so tired of the noble negro trope that has been seeping in and out the mythos they can keep that in the MCU. Also No interest in talking about the horrid MCU Wakanda movie so this will hold me until August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    You think he'd try to spread more of Wakanda's soft power?
    I think so. Through his publication history weíve seen hints of that happening, whether it be operating urban renewal programs in America, investing in emerging economies, or sharing limited amounts of technology. TíChalla should be smart enough to understand Wakanda has value not just as a world leader in security, but also economics, culture, and overall influence. Plus heís at his core a utopian-minded person, Wakanda has the means to make the world a genuinely better place so itíd be nice to see him using his resources to deal with stuff like desertification in Africa or political instability at his countryís borders. Lots of story potential in that IMO as youíll have factions that have different responses to this expansion of Wakandan power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ekie View Post
    Good, Ill have to check that issue out as I was expecting Shenanigans. I hope he doesnt seek peace with Doom. I want vengeance and retribution lol so tired of the noble negro trope that has been seeping in and out the mythos they can keep that in the MCU. Also No interest in talking about the horrid MCU Wakanda movie so this will hold me until August.
    I keep telling myself not to engage but I always get roped back in lol. Yea itís a fine issue, looks like heíll play a secondary role next issue as well which is exciting. I donít think TíChalla seeks peace with Doom so much as heís moved on from their conflicts and wants to make it official. And in real time itís been like a decade since Doomwar, Iím ready to see the next great BP rogue, not return to the tired old well of TíChalla seeking vengeance or fighting other franchises. Heíll never be allowed to kill Doom or Namor or the X-Men, Iíd rather leave it alone and build up his own lore and rogues gallery now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    I think so. Through his publication history we’ve seen hints of that happening, whether it be operating urban renewal programs in America, investing in emerging economies, or sharing limited amounts of technology. T’Challa should be smart enough to understand Wakanda has value not just as a world leader in security, but also economics, culture, and overall influence. Plus he’s at his core a utopian-minded person, Wakanda has the means to make the world a genuinely better place so it’d be nice to see him using his resources to deal with stuff like desertification in Africa or political instability at his country’s borders. Lots of story potential in that IMO as you’ll have factions that have different responses to this expansion of Wakandan power.
    Yeah, I think that has a lot of good story potential, and would make sense as an evolution of his character. Plus, it might bring in new enemies afraid of Wakanda's growing influence

    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    I keep telling myself not to engage but I always get roped back in lol. Yea it’s a fine issue, looks like he’ll play a secondary role next issue as well which is exciting. I don’t think T’Challa seeks peace with Doom so much as he’s moved on from their conflicts and wants to make it official. And in real time it’s been like a decade since Doomwar, I’m ready to see the next great BP rogue, not return to the tired old well of T’Challa seeking vengeance or fighting other franchises. He’ll never be allowed to kill Doom or Namor or the X-Men, I’d rather leave it alone and build up his own lore and rogues gallery now.
    I'm not exactly sure, but isn't the trope of Black nations being warlike and aggressive a much more prevalent and problematic stereotype in Hollywood? I may be wrong on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaue's Mixtape View Post
    One thought I just had (and I know I've been on both sides of the debate)

    How are they going to handle the 3rd act fight/battle?

    With T'Challa you had an experienced martial artist, years of fights under his belt against some of the biggest threats in the world, etc. Years of knowing how to handle the herb. Part of the reason Killmonger loses imo is that he really wasnt adjusted to all the super speed, quickness, etc. Not adjusted using it and not adjusted fighting people with it.

    It'd be quite a leap for Shuri to beat Namor or whoever else pulling strings. She didnt train for that. She wasnt built for that. At least the MCU version.

    Also they passed up giving the herb to Shuri in the original cause she wasnt ready for a Killmonger. M'Baku, while a good gesture, probably knew he wasnt worthy of it either. They NEEDED T'Challa because he was the only one with the skill, intelligence and experience to win something like that.

    Again I try to see both sides. However, this decision could ultimately undo everything they did in the previous movie if its not handled correctly.
    Well ad we could see in the solo, T'Challa was just an all around superior fighter to Erik in every way shape and form. Even when he was emotionally raw learning the Truth about his father and Erik, he still could of killed Erik twice on the warrior falls duel. Also in the mine fight, watch the YouTube video of that fight with health bars and you will see just how Large the gap in Skill was between the two.

    Also your exactly right, Shuri wasn't built to take the mantle. Not yet anyways. It's extremely clear that T'Challa was always the focus and he was going to have a full arc like other heroes. So it makes Feigis words about Wakanda always being the focus even more bullshit because it's obvious that how the Solo ended, T'Challa for atleast a time would be seemingly the last BP until the HSH thread was picked up again.

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