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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    IGEW was a great idea in this thread but terrible in the comics. Like I said, hopefully someone can come in and clean this up abit.
    They would just change it so T'challa had agency and was responsible for freeing the slaves.

    All of Coates mistakes are easily fixable if redone by anyone that can write fiction or doesn't hate the character.
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    Coates had some good ideas but Poor execution imo.
    Coates stuff will be used and probably slightly altered .
    Also I like NUMbaku

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    If Insomniac isn’t able to do it, would you guys rather a Black Panther game be made by some of Sony’s other studios like Santa Monica (God Of War) or Sucker Punch Productions (Ghosts of Tsushima)?
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

    So you might as well have a game where T'Challa could travel to NYC and Chicago, and Tokyo and what not.

    But then again, you might as well turn it into an Avengers game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    They will 100% adapt Coates run to stuff....


    But

    they will take out all the boring, ethical, talky talky stuff. No game or cartoon is gonna dive into all that stuff. They don't make protagonists that are depressed and do nothing lol.

    These people just take the vague comic ideas and twist them into something else entirely.

    I mean, take the basics of season 1 if you want. It was a rebellion storyline where Tetu and his sidekick Zenzi wanted to use their powers to end the monarchy/line of bashenga. They use terrorist tactics to cause fear. It ends with a failed attack on the Golden City lead by T'challa nd his ancestors. T'challa is still king. The end lol. That is easy as hell to adapt on a barebones level.
    Basically this. Coates stuff is only good for adapting the general plot itself. Unlike Priest or Hudlins stories where you can take the plot and other themes and make interesting stories from it while being able to adapt most of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Writer View Post
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

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    Meh

    SM PS4 was just Doc Ock and then a bunch of "others." Ain't like the general public cares about Mr. Negative lol. I read comics and barely know who he is.

    You need one main guy and then others for fights. The "others" just need a cool design and powers.

    There isn't anything special about Shocker, Rhino, Mr. Negative, or Scorpion other than cool costume + some powers.

    Need a Brute like Rhino? Jakarra or M'baku work just fine.

    Need a fly around dude like Vulture? Solomon Prey works just fine.

    Need a dude with creepy powers like Negative? Baron works just fine. Tetu works just fine

    Need someone to shoot stuff like Scorpion or Shocker or Electro??? You got Klaw, you got 6mil man, you got Salamander, you got Lord Karnaj

    Need the big bad behind the scenes like Doc or someone to tease for the future like Osborn? You got Killmonger, Kiber, Achebe, Moses

    Need a chick like Black Cat? Madam Slay, Malice, Zeniz, or Zanda work just fine.


    People overrate what you need to make video games or cartoons. THe only reason spidey has so many popular villains is because they are stupid simple with decent costumes and he had a cartoon to push them constantly.

    People will buy the game based on the title hero. Not the villains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Writer View Post
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

    So you might as well have a game where T'Challa could travel to NYC and Chicago, and Tokyo and what not.

    But then again, you might as well turn it into an Avengers game.
    Right because War for Wakanda saved a dying Avengers game because it spent time on NYC, and not because it explored the unique place that is T'Challas world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Writer View Post
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

    So you might as well have a game where T'Challa could travel to NYC and Chicago, and Tokyo and what not.

    But then again, you might as well turn it into an Avengers game.
    “Only interesting when interacting with the outside world.”

    Like that Avengers expansion didn’t have people wanting to free roam Wakanda outside of the typical mission zones. Lmao.

    The rogues gallery idea I think they can mitigate that by mixing BP villains people already know about (Klaw, Killmonger), giving exposure to lesser known rogues (Baron Macabre, Madame Slay), and some well known villains from other franchises that make sense for him to go up against (Mephisto, Kraven).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klaue's Mixtape View Post
    Imma be laughing my ass off 10 years from now when Coates run will be viewed as a cult classic.
    Just my guess/opinion of course

    Anyway Coates the Gawd is on CBS Morning.

    I just want to say I find Druski hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Writer View Post
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

    So you might as well have a game where T'Challa could travel to NYC and Chicago, and Tokyo and what not.

    But then again, you might as well turn it into an Avengers game.
    To be fair unless the character in question is Batman, Spider Man or The Flash (and most Flash centric media down plays his rogues) they all have maybe 3 or 4 decent villains and that's it.

    Which puts characters like Captain America, Iron Man and Black Panther all in the same boat.

    Actually Iron Man might be even worse off now than the other two considering his archenemy has just been repurposed into Shang Chi's dad. The comics are gonna do the same sooner or later.

    But for videogame purposes you just need one villain who has a army for the hero to beat up and 3 other villains to help get between the main villain and the hero.

    Black Panther has enough rogues to fill out the video game formula and even if he didn't, the game would just use Hydra again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Writer View Post
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

    So you might as well have a game where T'Challa could travel to NYC and Chicago, and Tokyo and what not.

    But then again, you might as well turn it into an Avengers game.
    See Wakanda and Die. Based entirely in Wakanda and the Skrulls can become any villain or hero. Super Skrulls are bosses.

    You can have aerial fights with the N'Yami cruisers going against Skrull warships, each with their own fighter jets.

    There can be stealth missions where you don't know if you're working with a Wakandan or Skrull.

    Side missions allow you to chose to be other characters besides T'Challa. And some of the characters you choose to be could turn out to be Skrulls but you don't know it.

    I'd play this game in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    To be fair unless the character in question is Batman, Spider Man or The Flash (and most Flash centric media down plays his rogues) they all have maybe 3 or 4 decent villains and that's it.

    Which puts characters like Captain America, Iron Man and Black Panther all in the same boat.

    Actually Iron Man might be even worse off now than the other two considering his archenemy has just been repurposed into Shang Chi's dad. The comics are gonna do the same sooner or later.

    But for videogame purposes you just need one villain who has a army for the hero to beat up and 3 other villains to help get between the main villain and the hero.

    Black Panther has enough rogues to fill out the video game formula and even if he didn't, the game would just use Hydra again.
    I think people that post on comic message boards forget how little people know (or care) about the supporting characters around the one hero they recognize.

    Wolverine is about ot get a game and a normal person might recognize Sabertooth. And maybe might remember the dumb robot silver samurai from the movie. Maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    I think people that post on comic message boards forget how little people know (or care) about the supporting characters around the one hero they recognize.

    Wolverine is about ot get a game and a normal person might recognize Sabertooth. And maybe might remember the dumb robot silver samurai from the movie. Maybe.
    Probably more people know Silver Samurai from the 90s X-Men Cartoon and the Marvel v. Capcom Fighting Game than the comics.

    And Sabertooth was in BOTH of those. That's probably why the general public even knows who he is.

    Oh yeah, there was a bad Wolverine movie with Sabertooth in it too. I almost forgot.

    But generally, Comics peeps can't seem to ever get their heads around how the general audience DGAF about actual comics or the comics canon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Meh

    SM PS4 was just Doc Ock and then a bunch of "others." Ain't like the general public cares about Mr. Negative lol. I read comics and barely know who he is.

    You need one main guy and then others for fights. The "others" just need a cool design and powers.

    There isn't anything special about Shocker, Rhino, Mr. Negative, or Scorpion other than cool costume + some powers.

    Need a Brute like Rhino? Jakarra or M'baku work just fine.

    Need a fly around dude like Vulture? Solomon Prey works just fine.

    Need a dude with creepy powers like Negative? Baron works just fine. Tetu works just fine

    Need someone to shoot stuff like Scorpion or Shocker or Electro??? You got Klaw, you got 6mil man, you got Salamander, you got Lord Karnaj

    Need the big bad behind the scenes like Doc or someone to tease for the future like Osborn? You got Killmonger, Kiber, Achebe, Moses

    Need a chick like Black Cat? Madam Slay, Malice, Zeniz, or Zanda work just fine.


    People overrate what you need to make video games or cartoons. THe only reason spidey has so many popular villains is because they are stupid simple with decent costumes and he had a cartoon to push them constantly.

    People will buy the game based on the title hero. Not the villains.
    As a Spider-Man fan, this is pretty much the truth.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackClaw View Post
    “Only interesting when interacting with the outside world.”

    Like that Avengers expansion didn’t have people wanting to free roam Wakanda outside of the typical mission zones. Lmao.

    The rogues gallery idea I think they can mitigate that by mixing BP villains people already know about (Klaw, Killmonger), giving exposure to lesser known rogues (Baron Macabre, Madame Slay), and some well known villains from other franchises that make sense for him to go up against (Mephisto, Kraven).
    Sounds very much like the workings of a good Black Panther solo game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    See Wakanda and Die. Based entirely in Wakanda and the Skrulls can become any villain or hero. Super Skrulls are bosses.

    You can have aerial fights with the N'Yami cruisers going against Skrull warships, each with their own fighter jets.

    There can be stealth missions where you don't know if you're working with a Wakandan or Skrull.

    Side missions allow you to chose to be other characters besides T'Challa. And some of the characters you choose to be could turn out to be Skrulls but you don't know it.

    I'd play this game in a heartbeat.
    Yeah, that does sound like an epic game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    Probably more people know Silver Samurai from the 90s X-Men Cartoon and the Marvel v. Capcom Fighting Game than the comics.

    And Sabertooth was in BOTH of those. That's probably why the general public even knows who he is.

    Oh yeah, there was a bad Wolverine movie with Sabertooth in it too. I almost forgot.

    But generally, Comics peeps can't seem to ever get their heads around how the general audience DGAF about actual comics or the comics canon.
    If you're referring to X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Sabretooth there was generally one of the better parts, at least in terms of actually capturing him as the intelligent, sadistic predator he is when he's written decently enough. That said, generally cosigned.
    The spider is always on the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vic Vega View Post
    But generally, Comics peeps can't seem to ever get their heads around how the general audience DGAF about actual comics or the comics canon.
    No they can.

    The issue that we have are some comic book peeps NOT accepting the general audience GAF about characters that they don't like.

    Especially the ones of COLOR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Writer View Post
    Regardless of who makes the game, Black Panther is only interesting when he is interacting with the outside world.

    His rogues gallery is not strong enough to have it be strictly a Wakanda-based game.

    So you might as well have a game where T'Challa could travel to NYC and Chicago, and Tokyo and what not.

    But then again, you might as well turn it into an Avengers game.

    Had it NOT been for the company going out of business....

    Static had a COMPLETE video game for Game Boy.

    Now who is in his rogue gallery???? Once you got past Hotstreak and Ebon? Yet he got a completed game.

    Lets not forget Shadowman at Valiant-who also has a video game.

    Miles Morales had one made for him in Finn.

    Fantastic Four had a game with foes that most don't know beyond Doom. Diablo was in it.

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