T'Challa: The Black Panther Appreciation 2021

[DigiCom]

That sounds pretty good. The only thing is that I'd want all Wakandans to shun him because if they don't, we'll have another civil war.

If you want an "evil T'Challa" with ANY ties to Wakanda at all, you'll get a civil war. That's why my first thought was an outside threat, but nobody seems content with that. It has to be an alt-universe T'Challa, or a future T'Challa, or whatever.

Apparently, nobody but a Wakandan king is allowed to be badass.

[Marvell2100]

@Agent Z...


Porn is illegal in Wakanda but rape camps not so much!


Carry on...

Thank Coates everybody!

[Marvell2100]

If you want an "evil T'Challa" with ANY ties to Wakanda at all, you'll get a civil war. That's why my first thought was an outside threat, but nobody seems content with that. It has to be an alt-universe T'Challa, or a future T'Challa, or whatever.

Apparently, nobody but a Wakandan king is allowed to be badass.

That's why I said mirror universe from the beginning. Evil T'Challa will have his own Wakanda. And you don't have to have a civil war. Wakandans can reject him and he build his own country just like The Maker did.

[Marvell2100]

So any thoughts on whether Wakanda is gonna play any role in Heroes Reborn since it’s about Blade waking up in a universe where the Avengers never existed?

Evil T'Challa?

[Ezyo1000]

If you want an "evil T'Challa" with ANY ties to Wakanda at all, you'll get a civil war. That's why my first thought was an outside threat, but nobody seems content with that. It has to be an alt-universe T'Challa, or a future T'Challa, or whatever.

Apparently, nobody but a Wakandan king is allowed to be badass.

That's also why I say have T'Chaka be resurrected from the alter to become the new death tiger to go after T'Challa

[Vordan]

That's why I said mirror universe from the beginning. Evil T'Challa will have his own Wakanda. And you don't have to have a civil war. Wakandans can reject him and he build his own country just like The Maker did.

I’m surprised Marvel hasn’t had an “Earth 3” equivalent. Hickman brought over some evil Avengers during his run, but a Multiverse world where the moralities are swapped hasn’t been done I don’t think.

[Marvell2100]

I’m surprised Marvel hasn’t had an “Earth 3” equivalent. Hickman brought over some evil Avengers during his run, but a Multiverse world where the moralities are swapped hasn’t been done I don’t think.

They somewhat did a team called The Revengers in The Thanos Imperative. They were a team of Avengers from the Cancerverse possessed by The many Angled Ones.

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When you say "Evil T'challa" do you mean this...

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Or this...

[Marvell2100]

Maybe this:

[MouserGrey]

Maybe this:

Loved Boseman but I was always pulling for Chiwetel for the role.

[Ekie]

Loved Boseman but I was always pulling for Chiwetel for the role.

He would make a great Priest/Kirby Tchalla with the right director

[Ekie]

While we're on the subject we should match up actors that would make great specific versions of Tchalla. Say David Liss Tchalla vs a Redjack Tchalla vs a Avengers:emh ect ect

Thats one thing that casual mcu fan dont seem to understand. Tchalla can be played multiple ways

[Klaue's Mixtape]

It more than convinced Marvel executives, who didn’t hesitate to award her the job and a $30 million art department budget, but more importantly, the presentation was the start of Beachler’s approximately 500-page “Black Panther” bible.

“It was a big reference point for us to come back to for when you have questions,” said Coogler, who said he returned to it this Fall as started to prep “Black Panther 2.” “It was the thing that everybody had, because visual effects, and costumes, and stunts, everybody needed it so that we could ask her questions, like when it came to casting, or when it came to building a set, or figuring out stunts or figuring out clothing.”

The new canvas of Wakanda opened up Beachler creatively, and revealed a whole other level of her talent and insight. Ideas are brought to life in details big and small, as Beachler expresses a vision in Wakanda replete with a social awareness that even the most thoughtful architects would be exhilarated by. It technologies are thrilling — from remotely operated cars and planes to magnetic levitation train systems, and more — but the connection between people is also important in its design.

“Black Panther”courtesy of The Everett Collection
It was the idealism of urban planning and Afrofuturism grounded in something tactile and real. The budget and world-building may have been on a new level, but the filmmakers’ approach to this fantasy city was remarkably similar to “Fruitvale Station” and “Creed.” “I felt like it was cemented when we did Step Town, because we talked about that standing in KwaZulu-Natal, Ladysmith [a city in South Africa],” said Beachler in describing an early scouting/research trip. “And he looked down at the ground that we were on, and he looked at me and said, ‘That’s Step Town.'”

In the middle of the modern metropolis of the Golden City was Step Town, the old city region of T’Challa’s capitol. The vibrant culture and history of the civilization comes to life in this district where Wakandans come to dine, shop, and hang out. From the street art to the architecture, Beachler transcended the CGI flatness that can sometimes plague MCU films.

And it wasn’t just work designed to come to life on screen, there was a level of detail in Beachler’s Step Town set that made it real for the cast and Coogler, not unlike when he stood on the real streets of Ladysmith. “She built all these storefronts,” marveled Coogler. “Some places where you could really cook meat and where you could really buy some tea. It was crazy stuff that we were doing.”

It was work that won Beachler an Oscar; she was not only the first Black production designer to win the award, she was the first to even be nominated in the category. She has completely shifted industry expectations, and, as a result, reinforced and reinvigorated her creative process, which should manifest in future projects.

“[Ryan] believed I could do all of this before I believed I could do all of this,” said Beachler. “It transformed my career insomuch that I can now decide what work I want to do. I have access to rooms and people that I would never have access to, literally never, without Ryan. It’s a big deal. I wouldn’t have won an Oscar without him. That’s not a possibility. It’s his vision. It’s his storytelling. And it’s really his trust in me.”

In the years since “Fruitvale Station,” Beachler has become an in-demand production designer. After that film and working with Barry Jenkins on “Moonlight,” directors like Todd Haynes turned to her for “Dark Waters,” while Steven Soderbergh is relying on her to bring “the race-torn, rapidly changing” Detroit of 1955 to life for his new film “No Sudden Move.”

Beyond her obvious skill, and compatible aesthetic sensibility, Coogler — like other directors — finds it easy to work with Beachler because of her her great communication skills. “Hannah really loves what she does,” he added. “Her energy is kind of infectious. She’s a perfectionist. And she loves film language and speaks it really fluently.”

It’s a skill set Coogler is relying on again for “Black Panther 2,” but also one he believes is suited for directing, an endeavor he is actively supporting Beachler to explore. Beachler has a “small project” set up at Carri Twigg’s Culture House Media at Netflix that she’s eyeing as her own directorial debut.

After years of stagnation, Beachler remembers the moment — aboard a Marvel private jet, as she and Coogler were going over “Black Panther” illustrations — when they realized how quickly they had risen together. “Ryan stopped and said, ‘Hannah, we’re on a jet flying over South Africa, having a production design meeting. We were just on “Fruitvale Station.

https://www.indiewire.com/influencer...nnah-beachler/

Only thing I wish is that Hannah or Ryan realized that the mines were not a suitable space for a final fight. Especially with the CGI constraints. Should have moved it to where Killmonger died.

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And no mention of the Great Paul Muad'Dib's influence of Hannah Beachler...


(smh)