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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    He got beat up by a lob of randos on a store, an old lady split his scalp with a can. He got best IL by a bunch of teenagers and he got beat up by KKK goons. Mcgregor did some good but he also out T'Challa through torture porn
    Fair enough.... I don't mind torture porn as long as BP wins BY HIMSELF without TNC nonsense of being saved or assisted by whatever side character.

    But I do agree that lackeys and Goon Slam Barrys should never be able to be capable of hurting BP EXCEPT for perhaps some major villains with BP pulling through and winning.

    NO PHYRRIC(sp?) VICTORIES!!!

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    Folks keep talking about beat down, beat down, beat down in McGregor's run refusing to acknowledge BPs wins.

    Anyhow, after TNCs horrid run. I can understand who that might have tainted how many see McGregor's BP run.

    We don't know how long Ridley will be on BP but I really hope he is getting a truly kickass BP hopefully for the next few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    I agree, Mcgregors panther was extremely passive and reacted/ stumbled into situations which was a problem for the king and a warrior of his caliber. You would think he was some second rare warrior by how much and How often he got beat down. Not great.

    Yes he had allies but like you said they were More pawns. They worked and functioned under his command. Hudlin they were more asset's than pawns. But they never were equals. Coates shifted completely and made them come off as the heroes while T'Challa was just the guy to happened to be there. Hell when N'Jadaka comes to Wakanda prime Okoye is front and center and T'Challa is off to the side, Okoye takes down Erik and T'Challa takes down Zenzi. Like, who's supposed to be the hero? T'Challa or Okoye because how he is treated you would not think he is THE guy.
    In fairness, before the 90s, all heroes were passive, reacting the villain plots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Besouro View Post
    Fair enough.... I don't mind torture porn as long as BP wins BY HIMSELF without TNC nonsense of being saved or assisted by whatever side character.

    But I do agree that lackeys and Goon Slam Barrys should never be able to be capable of hurting BP EXCEPT for perhaps some major villains with BP pulling through and winning.

    NO PHYRRIC(sp?) VICTORIES!!!

    Edit:

    Folks keep talking about beat down, beat down, beat down in McGregor's run refusing to acknowledge BPs wins.

    Anyhow, after TNCs horrid run. I can understand who that might have tainted how many see McGregor's BP run.

    We don't know how long Ridley will be on BP but I really hope he is getting a truly kickass BP hopefully for the next few years.
    Quote Originally Posted by The Cool Thatguy View Post
    In fairness, before the 90s, all heroes were passive, reacting the villain plots

    It's not that I refuse to acknowledge the wins, they felt earned, however some of those beat downs were ridiculous. I mean read Mcgregors run and seeing an old lady split his scalp and him being knocked around by some teens, would you really believe that was the same guy who solod the FF or one shot Karnak?

    I also understand that villains wee more proactive but they should not be getting the business by redshirts. Sure maybe the mini boss gives them trouble as well as the big bad. But redshirts are there to get hand's put on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    It's not that I refuse to acknowledge the wins, they felt earned, however some of those beat downs were ridiculous. I mean read Mcgregors run and seeing an old lady split his scalp and him being knocked around by some teens, would you really believe that was the same guy who solod the FF or one shot Karnak?

    I also understand that villains wee more proactive but they should not be getting the business by redshirts. Sure maybe the mini boss gives them trouble as well as the big bad. But redshirts are there to get hand's put on them
    I agree. He may have gotten the wins but many of them were hollow wins, hence the pyrrhic victories moniker.

    When the villains beat you like a piniata' and you win because of someone else has to step in or the villain self-defeats, it's impossible to get excited about that.

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    Make it so T'challa beats killmonger by sheer force of will and PAnther Rage is instantly 5x better
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    In today's Immortal Hulk, Hulk was battling the Avengers.

    No spoilers but T'Challa gave a "boss" account of himself.

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    T'Challa had a pretty good showing in Immortal Hulk

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    He focused his energy daggers into his claws and slices off Hulk's arm and later spears him
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNomarch View Post
    T'Challa had a pretty good showing in Immortal Hulk

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    He focused his energy daggers into his claws and slices off Hulk's arm and later spears him
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    That's impossible. T'Challa would have to be a super-intelligent badass to do something like that.

    There has been no indication in his own book that T'Challa has the quijones to do something like this.

    Impossible I say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Make it so T'challa beats killmonger by sheer force of will and PAnther Rage is instantly 5x better
    His fights against Killmonger in Panther’s Rage should have gone like how it did in the Iron Man annual. Now that I think about it T'Challa seemed to have better showings outside if his own books during that era. At least in Gillis' mini he took down the Supremacist singlehandedly. God knows how bad it would have been if McGregor wrote it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingNomarch View Post
    His fights against Killmonger in Panther’s Rage should have gone like how it did in the Iron Man annual. Now that I think about it T'Challa seemed to have better showings outside if his own books during that era. At least in Gillis' mini he took down the Supremacist singlehandedly. God knows how bad it would have been if McGregor wrote it.
    Not in Roy Thomas' Avengers.

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    In Heroes reborn it seems Wakanda left earth in space ships at some point. But it's only in dialogue. Ego tells Doctor Spectum under duress. If anyone reads this works issue, let me know if they go into more detail.

    This week is supposed to be Nighthawk, so maybe Ronin Tchalla?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    It's not that I refuse to acknowledge the wins, they felt earned, however some of those beat downs were ridiculous. I mean read Mcgregors run and seeing an old lady split his scalp and him being knocked around by some teens, would you really believe that was the same guy who solod the FF or one shot Karnak?

    I also understand that villains wee more proactive but they should not be getting the business by redshirts. Sure maybe the mini boss gives them trouble as well as the big bad. But redshirts are there to get hand's put on them
    Good and valid points, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    In Heroes reborn it seems Wakanda left earth in space ships at some point. But it's only in dialogue. Ego tells Doctor Spectum under duress. If anyone reads this works issue, let me know if they go into more detail.

    This week is supposed to be Nighthawk, so maybe Ronin Tchalla?
    Yes. Ronin T'challa makes an appearance.
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    I can already hear people calling T'Challa a Mary Sue from the latest Hulk issue.

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    That seriously might be the most impressive physical feats T'challa has managed... ever? in Immortal Hulk.

    holy **** lol

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    dagger through the eyes hurting Hulk, cutt of his arm with his claws, then speared the dude to the point Jen turned traitor to save Hulk lol.
    end of spoilers

    Gotdamn Ewing. Invite Ewing to the BBQ lol
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