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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    How about that island he bought. Every time we have people over, the city gets destroyed. Lol
    Just put up a sign outside of Wakanda that says "Beware of Cat."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Teleported "home"

    Never specified where that was.

    I do not enjoy Cates lol.

    BB showed up in a Dr. Strange arc and his voice was magically restored for the 15th time but it didn't mention any other inhumans that I ccan remember.
    And that’s just the royals. Who knows if the nuhumans (save for Ms. Marvel and Moon Girl) got slaughtered as well.
    T'Challa
    A.K.A. The Black Panther
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    King of the Dead and The Champion of Bast
    Two-Time Time Magazine "Person Of The Year"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    Nah, that's a religion. A fictional character cant be allowed to be a representative of a real race of people. It's fine to say a character can be inspirational or aspirational, but hes not worth one real human on any level. If the choice were Chad alive or Tchalla never existing in any medium again, the choice has to be Chad or any human life.

    I get the point but you’re underselling the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    Nah, that's a religion. A fictional character cant be allowed to be a representative of a real race of people. It's fine to say a character can be inspirational or aspirational, but hes not worth one real human on any level. If the choice were Chad alive or Tchalla never existing in any medium again, the choice has to be Chad or any human life.
    In what universe is that choice being asked to be made? Also, worship of humans amounts to what? A cult?

    Whats the narrative of this argument? That if T'Challa is allowed to continue as a character then it erases all of the good deeds, all of the professional accomplishments, and all that Boseman did as a human, father, brother, son ect?
    Cause a civil rights era comic book hero exists?

    Such a diminishing take for BOTH parties involved. Black ppl understand death and reality
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    https://www.cbr.com/search/Black%20Panther/

    Captain America and BP a Dynamic Duo? They work well together just not long enough together.

    Black Bolt and Black Panther should be the dynamic duo.

    Now that I think about it, what hero has T'Challa teamed up with the most?

    Reed probably?

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    https://www.cbr.com/marvel-sebastian...anda-projects/

    Should Bucky return as the White Wolf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    https://www.cbr.com/search/Black%20Panther/

    Captain America and BP a Dynamic Duo? They work well together just not long enough together.

    Black Bolt and Black Panther should be the dynamic duo.

    Now that I think about it, what hero has T'Challa teamed up with the most?

    Reed probably?
    I think BP and Blue Marvel would be the closest to Worlds Finest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I think BP and Blue Marvel would be the closest to Worlds Finest.
    They would. I only worry that their super genius would kinda negate itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    They would. I only worry that their super genius would kinda negate itself.
    As teased in the Ultimates, I think their method of operating would provide enough dynamic that both of them being geniuses would be used just for plot progression, investigation, or comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    Nah, that's a religion. A fictional character cant be allowed to be a representative of a real race of people. It's fine to say a character can be inspirational or aspirational, but hes not worth one real human on any level. If the choice were Chad alive or Tchalla never existing in any medium again, the choice has to be Chad or any human life.
    Where did I say I would rather Chad be dead so T'Challa can live on? I said T'Challas story is bigger that any one person so the idea of T'Challa dying with Chad doesn't sit well. As you said these are fictional characters so they should not have a mortal coil like you and me. They can and should live on no matter what happens to the real life actor who portrays them.

    So when people say, T'Challa is bigger than any one actor, they aren't saying that Chad's life doesn't matter, they are saying that T'Challa (being a fictional character) does not need to share the same fate as his real life actor who played him. It makes zero sense.

    You and I saw the zeitgeist that was the Black Panther movie, saw what the movie did for black people what it inspired, what it tells young Black People, that they can be more, they don't have to be only seen as gangbangers, drug slingers, pimps, or incarcerated, slaves, or seen as needing white saviors. So yea, lets keep that please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    Where did I say I would rather Chad be dead so T'Challa can live on? I said T'Challas story is bigger that any one person so the idea of T'Challa dying with Chad doesn't sit well. As you said these are fictional characters so they should not have a mortal coil like you and me. They can and should live on no matter what happens to the real life actor who portrays them.

    So when people say, T'Challa is bigger than any one actor, they aren't saying that Chad's life doesn't matter, they are saying that T'Challa (being a fictional character) does not need to share the same fate as his real life actor who played him. It makes zero sense.

    You and I saw the zeitgeist that was the Black Panther movie, saw what the movie did for black people what it inspired, what it tells young Black People, that they can be more, they don't have to be only seen as gangbangers, drug slingers, pimps, or incarcerated, slaves, or seen as needing white saviors. So yea, lets keep that please

    Fictional characters have no agency. They dont need to exist. Marvel could go out of business next year and the only people it would really matter too are those who are out of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    https://www.cbr.com/search/Black%20Panther/

    Captain America and BP a Dynamic Duo? They work well together just not long enough together.

    Black Bolt and Black Panther should be the dynamic duo.

    Now that I think about it, what hero has T'Challa teamed up with the most?

    Reed probably?
    I like T'Challa and Cap teaming up, but I dunno if BB would be the best since he can't talk to T'Challa. I would almost say he needs someone like Thor, a person who can make up for the stuff he lacks.

    BM works but he is a D lister unfortunately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    Fictional characters have no agency. They dont need to exist. Marvel could go out of business next year and the only people it would really matter too are those who are out of work.
    I don't get the argument here. Yes T'Challa has no agency. He isn't real. But he represents something real. Hope, inspiration, aspiration and gives people something to thrive towards. He doesn't have to be an existing person to inspire real life people.

    T'Challa does need to exist. Your wrong about that. I am not sure what it is your trying to get at. People worship celebrities, is that any different than people wanting to see T'Challa continue on and strive to be like him? He is an ideal, people will latch onto him just like people latched onto Chadwick, and I will say what he did in his life is no less as important and impactful as T'Challa existing. So again let's keep that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    I like T'Challa and Cap teaming up, but I dunno if BB would be the best since he can't talk to T'Challa.
    Remember Morn from DS9? They could do it that way, but then it would be [unintentionally] comedy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    I don't get the argument here. Yes T'Challa has no agency. He isn't real. But he represents something real. Hope, inspiration, aspiration and gives people something to thrive towards. He doesn't have to be an existing person to inspire real life people.

    T'Challa does need to exist. Your wrong about that. I am not sure what it is your trying to get at. People worship celebrities, is that any different than people wanting to see T'Challa continue on and strive to be like him? He is an ideal, people will latch onto him just like people latched onto Chadwick, and I will say what he did in his life is no less as important and impactful as T'Challa existing. So again let's keep that
    The fact that he's fictional means that everything about him can be transplanted to any other fictional character. Because at the end of the day he has no voice of his own, it's just the voice of the puppeteer.

    And people shouldn't worship celebrities because most likely what their worshipping is also fictional. The term never meet your heroes exist for a reason. Lol.

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