T'Challa: The Black Panther Appreciation 2021

[Ezyo1000]

Not surprised at all, in previous works the writer said they didn't start reading BP until Coates' run and that the book basically saved his life. Which is good for him obviously lol but he's clearly operating from a place of extreme bias that won't be uncommon from many reviewers moving forward. Ridley's run won't get the same universal acclaim as Coates partly because many people are gonna think his take on T'Challa is the atypical one.

As I said in a previous post, most of the media folks commenting on BP nowadays did not give a damn about the character prior to the MCU so their only in-depth knowledge of the character comes from Coogler and Coates. Neither of whom delivered traditional portrayals of T'Challa's personality or flaws. The raw ego, paranoia, and aggressiveness of Ridley's T'Challa is a direct repudiation of the deferential and overly cautious prince we tend to see nowadays in Marvel media. Hell, I remember Grace Randolph didn't care for the Avengers game version of T'Challa because he was "too bulky" and "too mean" lol.

There's a segment of the fandom that unfortunately don't like a T'Challa with some bass in his voice or his manipulative tendencies. And as we already see in that article, part of that is gonna come down to them wanting the female side characters to play a bigger role and for T'Challa to rely on them. The reviewer didn't have a single thing to say about how T'Challa talked down to EVERYONE in that issue, including Cap and Strange. But all of a sudden its an issue that he's not treating the Prime Minister of Wakanda like she's a goddess. I imagine that's gonna be a recurring theme of criticism as this run continues and it'll never not be annoying or a bad faith argument. Expect a lot of tears on Twitter if T'Challa embarrasses Storm in issue #200 lol. Despite everyone loving when Storm beat up Shuri, disrespected Ramonda, and berated T'Challa in XOS.

Honestly it just reeks of a clearly biased agenda "How Dare T'Challa, the title character and the face of the franchise act in character! How dare he not postrate himself Infront of the women in the book!" While ignoring the context, just like the comment about annulling the marriage whole ignoring the content that Storm brought in a strike team, attacked him Infront of their people, threw her ring away and didn't do anything when Wakanda was flooded till after the fact.

Honestly, Ridley started off pretty strong, I hope he realizes that Coates method ain't it, how he started T'Challa off is HOW HE SHOULD BE. T'Challa works best when people fully don't trust him or know what exactly he is thinking or planning.

If he punks out on issue 200 with Storm then he doesn't deserve to be on the book. And they should grab someone who knows what is needed for T'Challa. But I have a feeling he knows this and won't punk T'Challa

[Ezyo1000]

Lmao does he think this is a positive?

Right? Like who is like "Damn look how T'Challa is taking that tongue lashing like a whipped dog, how badass!" Plus none of the characters listed above even made any logical Sense under Coates pen. They weren't wiser than T'Challa, under his pen, EVERYONE was dumb AF

[KingNomarch]

God... the tears from issue 3 are either gonna be so delicious or a lot of us in here are gonna be crying tears of pain and anger lol

Fingers-crossed that T'Challa has a Wakandan mutant spy there

[John Venus]

Uh-oh, looks like T'Challa had a bit too much for Thanksgiving. Bet Namor never lets him live this down:

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[Spiderfan001]

Fingers-crossed that T'Challa has a Wakandan mutant spy there

Seconded

From what I hear of BP fans some people aren't thrilled w/ Panther being so paranoid and secretive but I'd much rather have this than the alternative.

I really hope Panther stand up to Storm and Arrako.

[Spiderfan001]

Honestly it just reeks of a clearly biased agenda "How Dare T'Challa, the title character and the face of the franchise act in character! How dare he not postrate himself Infront of the women in the book!" While ignoring the context, just like the comment about annulling the marriage whole ignoring the content that Storm brought in a strike team, attacked him Infront of their people, threw her ring away and didn't do anything when Wakanda was flooded till after the fact.

This is IMO "woke" writing, I'm aware the term has lost all meaning but when writers write characters OOC to fit in w/ their (political)views it makes the comic so much worse.

Honestly, Ridley started off pretty strong, I hope he realizes that Coates method ain't it, how he started T'Challa off is HOW HE SHOULD BE. T'Challa works best when people fully don't trust him or know what exactly he is thinking or planning.

If he punks out on issue 200 with Storm then he doesn't deserve to be on the book. And they should grab someone who knows what is needed for T'Challa. But I have a feeling he knows this and won't punk T'Challa

I like it so far.Looking forward to the next issues

Here's hoping

[Vordan]

Coates’ T’Challa, far from a swaggering swashbuckler, was guilt-ridden, pensive, cerebral … scared. He deferred to those wiser than him, many of whom were female (Romonda, Shuri, Storm, even the manifestation of the goddess Bast).

Wasn’t this exactly what so many people who didn’t like Coates take were complaining about? And the pro-Coates people were saying those who weren’t enjoying Coates take just wanted a Mary Sue self-insert? Guess the pro-Coates coalition finally admitted that some of the complaints were valid, even if they didn’t see them as drawbacks. Also why the hell would anyone want to read a book where the main character is a depressed idiot who can’t do anything without other characters needing to spoon feed him the solution? Different strokes and all that but I can’t wrap my head around this opinion.

[BlackClaw]

Wasn’t this exactly what so many people who didn’t like Coates take were complaining about? And the pro-Coates people were saying those who weren’t enjoying Coates take just wanted a Mary Sue self-insert? Guess the pro-Coates coalition finally admitted that some of the complaints were valid, even if they didn’t see them as drawbacks. Also why the hell would anyone want to read a book where the main character is a depressed idiot who can’t do anything without other characters needing to spoon feed him the solution? Different strokes and all that but I can’t wrap my head around this opinion.

I guess people just hate seeing a Black man be competent and confident.

[DigiCom]

I guess people just hate seeing a Black man be competent and confident.

I think some people hate heroes being competent, period. They have to be underdogs, beaten into a pulp until they somehow win at the last minute.

A character actually being GOOD at their job is so unusual there's a special term for it: "Competency porn".

[Spiderfan001]

Wasn’t this exactly what so many people who didn’t like Coates take were complaining about? And the pro-Coates people were saying those who weren’t enjoying Coates take just wanted a Mary Sue self-insert? Guess the pro-Coates coalition finally admitted that some of the complaints were valid, even if they didn’t see them as drawbacks. Also why the hell would anyone want to read a book where the main character is a depressed idiot who can’t do anything without other characters needing to spoon feed him the solution? Different strokes and all that but I can’t wrap my head around this opinion.

Same thing but more extreme w/ Dan Slott's Spider-man.They love making the leads incompetent to boost up other characters.Slott wrote Spider-man for more than a decade...

Really hoping this is different

[Spiderfan001]

I think some people hate heroes being competent, period. They have to be underdogs, beaten into a pulp until they somehow win at the last minute.

A character actually being GOOD at their job is so unusual there's a special term for it: "Competency porn".

THIS, it's so bad.It's a fundamental misunderstanding of underdog complexes and being overwhelmed.There is nothing wrong w/ the latter 2 but writers misunderstand them and instead just write incompetent leads.The last minute victories are forced and anti-climactic.

From Panther to Stark to Peter, they all have runs where they are written as incompetent whereas neither of them are.They can be overwhelmed and loose, they can take help but damn learn how to write those arcs.It's like they punish you for reading their books

[Pulp Fiction]

I'd rather the franchise be a critical failure than go back to bland, incompetent, sad panther.

My paranoid, arrogant King is back and I will rejoice.

[Ezyo1000]

This is IMO "woke" writing, I'm aware the term has lost all meaning but when writers write characters OOC to fit in w/ their (political)views it makes the comic so much worse.



I like it so far.Looking forward to the next issues

Here's hoping

Nah I wouldn't say woke writing. This is fake woke crowd, the term woke doesn't imply that yo flip the script and make men the idiots needing help. Being woke means that you understand that everyone needs their shine and your not going to write stupid isht like what was in that article. Which was laughable.

I can't believe they wrote that isht about Coates panther and didn't just burst out laughing at the ridiculousness of mentioning that his take was somehow the superior take. It was isht, it was the type of writing I would expect of a character that's a two bit villain, completely trash villain who's incompetence is unbound and needs help from his cast to do everything.

[Ezyo1000]

I think some people hate heroes being competent, period. They have to be underdogs, beaten into a pulp until they somehow win at the last minute.

A character actually being GOOD at their job is so unusual there's a special term for it: "Competency porn".

Truly a sad state to be in, I don't know how anyone can enjoy that type of writing.

You would think having a villain brought up to the level of the hero and both sides are fighting to beat/stop the other and it's an exciting story with twists and turns to keep you hooked, ending with a well deserved and hard earned victory from the hero would be the most preferred story. Yes the hero wins but they don't come out unscathed, atleast not in most of the stories.

That is why, Coates run will eventually fade away and be forgotten just like Mayberry because for all the "critical acclaim" at the end of the day, he wrote **** book with bad plot, pacing, logistics, and his stories were forgettable

[Agent Z]

Uh-oh, looks like T'Challa had a bit too much for Thanksgiving. Bet Namor never lets him live this down:

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Curious, have we ever seen Christmas or Thanksgiving celebrated in Wakanda?