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    Quote Originally Posted by skyvolt2000 View Post
    Yet WE are wrong for not following the BORG collective and accepting it. Because this is an appreciation thread and we have to appreciate whatever mess is tossed.




    Iron Heart and Miles were they dealing with Outlawed?

    And in Miles's book he was taking down KIB dragon single handily. In fact where is that dragon? He can help.




    He's been auditioning for one for the last 5 years
    KiB and Outlawed probably hadn't started yet. This was supposed to be over last July.

    I did like that dragon interaction. Made the issue fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Gonna have them give the fields back to niganda too?

    Gonna give up your house for a native american?

    If ur gonna have wakanda colonize, then at least have them own that shit as warriors. Not have ass fix it with "honor." Just say bashenga stopped the colonizing and move on.
    I dont think Wakanda simply has "no room" for them. Is that what you are saying? Where are you getting that notion? Where is the notion that Wakanda has to be like America in its lack of accountability for past mistakes?

    Like I get a lot of yall hate this run and this writer but what is this? This whole run has been a deconstruction of Wakanda and I get that it wasn't need and most here didn't want it but why should we have them continue on that way just because? That reeks of a tantrum mindset, not criticism with intent to improve it....

    I think them acknowledging that some of rhe things they did in the past were wrong and offering another way is better than just "owning" it.
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    i'll say one thing for this debate.

    I now have an idea for a Storm book which is something I would NEVER have thought I'd ever have.

    I'm even think German would be the right artist for it.

    hmmm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonstrack View Post
    I dont think Wakanda simply has "no room" for them, at all. Where are you getting that notion?
    they gonna intermingle with regular Wakandans?

    Or gonna put them on a reservation on the outskirtts of the land?

    Wakanda is tiny man, it is like a lil bigger than New Jesey
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    they gonna intermingle with regular Wakandans?

    Or gonna put them on a reservation on the outskirtts of the land?

    Wakanda is tiny man, it is like a lil bigger than New Jesey
    Im sure the most advanced nation on earth can figure something out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    they gonna intermingle with regular Wakandans?

    Or gonna put them on a reservation on the outskirtts of the land?

    Wakanda is tiny man, it is like a lil bigger than New Jesey
    I'm going to say Shadow Physics all the cities and the Mound to a new planet. Tchalla either lives out of Avengers Mt. or the Island he bought in FF annual #5(first time meeting Black Bolt). Either or both would have a teleporter to the new planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I'm going to say Shadow Physics ass the cities and the Mound to a new planet. Tchalla either lives out of Avengers Mt. or the Island he bought in FF annual #5(first time meeting Black Bolt). Either or both would have a teleporter to the new planet.

    Id be down for this lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    I'm going to say Shadow Physics ass the cities and the Mound to a new planet. Tchalla either lives out of Avengers Mt. or the Island he bought in FF annual #5(first time meeting Black Bolt). Either or both would have a teleporter to the new planet.
    Like a Nether Portal in Minecraft lol?

    Gonna send those monsters to the Nether!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toonstrack View Post
    Im sure the most advanced nation on earth can figure something out...
    If there is one thing Wakanda is known for, is their acceptance of outsiders and their love of foreigners.

    I'm sure they'd love to host some Monster creepy looking things lol
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    Maybe T'challa can make more of those pokemon balls he put hte Tiger God in and put all the Monsters in those.

    Wakandan warriors can have their very own Pokemon for battle!


    Speaking of which... now would be a good time for Daddy Tiger God to make an appearance to see what the Orisha are up too lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    Like a Nether Portal in Minecraft lol?

    Gonna send those monsters to the Nether!
    Isn't that where they were already living? Lol

    Was it weird that they were still in chains. When they invaded in the second arc they weren't wearing any. And are they immortal or does the dimension they were sent to keep them from aging? Lol

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    Assuming Wakanda wins this war with the empire and keeps up contact with its territories, it shouldn’t be hard for T’Challa to arrange a settlement program on one of the many planets, moons, or asteroids contained in the 5 galaxies. The Originators don’t seem to have a population any larger than a small nation, so it’s really just a matter of ferrying a few million demons across the stars. That’s the only way the Originators can be paid these “reparations” without Ramonda coming off like she’s just spouting empty platitudes.

    Giving them their own territory also makes it much easier for subsequent writers to ignore them altogether. Most of the changes Coates made to the mythos are superficial at best (Constitutional Council, liberated Dora Milaje, the Orisha) and can easily be sidestepped, with an offworld Originators being just one more thing that’ll fade into obscurity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindofShadow View Post
    i mean, the big climatic fight, T'challa got saved by a kid lol.

    T'challa was beaten up torture porn style. It is a little much at times.

    I will never talk bad about McGregor in regards to whether he liked T'challa and Wakanda. He obviously does. Just his brand of story telling doesn't click with me at all.

    With McGregor, I am critiquing his storytelling choices. With Coates, I am questioning EVERYTHING. it si a different level of critique lol
    Atleast with McGregor, he atleast tried to actually make meaningful lore to T'Challas franchise, yeah he had some torture porn that got ridiculous at times, and I don't appreciate T'Challa getting beat up by rando teenagers or getting his head split by some old lady... But then he did stuff like have him stop a Giant ass crocodile from biting down on him, kill a t rex using a tree, and pull some insane durability feats. Coates... Channel's the power of armchair general, and when Coates finally begrudgingly has him fight it's with over reliance on the force push... Not even diving into a level of racism that would have marvel crucified if Coates were white

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    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    Assuming Wakanda wins this war with the empire and keeps up contact with its territories, it shouldn’t be hard for T’Challa to arrange a settlement program on one of the many planets, moons, or asteroids contained in the 5 galaxies. The Originators don’t seem to have a population any larger than a small nation, so it’s really just a matter of ferrying a few million demons across the stars. That’s the only way the Originators can be paid these “reparations” without Ramonda coming off like she’s just spouting empty platitudes.

    Giving them their own territory also makes it much easier for subsequent writers to ignore them altogether. Most of the changes Coates made to the mythos are superficial at best (Constitutional Council, liberated Dora Milaje, the Orisha) and can easily be sidestepped, with an offworld Originators being just one more thing that’ll fade into obscurity.
    Only giving back the land that was originally theres would be reparations. The humans came from somewhere else, so they are the ones who need to go somewhere else. Anything else is just another reservation with a better view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cville View Post
    Only giving back the land that was originally theres would be reparations. The humans came from somewhere else, so they are the ones who need to go somewhere else. Anything else is just another reservation with a better view.
    I agree that IDEALLY Wakandans would just give the land back and find their own place to call home. But just like how it’s not feasible for America to give the entirety of its territory to the indigenous peoples they stole it from, we all know Wakanda will never do that. Giving the Originators their own independent planet is a much better deal than many real life displaced peoples have gotten in the wake of genocide or war. Far from what is morally ideal but it’s something and I imagine that future demon babies will be happy their parents took Ramonda’s deal lol.

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