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    Tchalla ultimate Enemy will always be Killmonger..
    Writers need to let Killmonger loose like Coates
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    Hell I would even go as far to say that 10 years future T'Challa would of made the perfect Villain. And you wouldn't expect it because of how he acts, and his flaws are essentially his health
    Priest wrote a future story where T’Challa’s own future son T’Charra was a villain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariel81 View Post
    Tchalla ultimate Enemy will always be Killmonger..
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    Nah, comics Killmonger is really a bit overrated. He lacks vision.

    Then again, the other candidate for arch-enemy is Klaw... and he's even worse.

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    A thought...

    If we are to assume Wakanda has had advanced tech pre-T'Challa (I believe that is the commonly accepted position?) then it is possible that there was a former Black Panther who, for example, believed that Wakanda should rule.

    He was finally deposed, but they could not kill him for political reasons, so instead he was placed in deep suspended animation, and erased from the histories... the dark secret of the Panther lineage.

    Until, centuries later, the descendants of his partisans (the Desturi, perhaps?) stole his body and used the technology that eventually led to the Resurrection Altar to awaken him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MouserGrey View Post
    I still hold firm to my opinion Hudlin could have accomplished the same things for the mythos and his daughter by creating an in house LI for T'Challa instead of a sister. For the movies as well.
    Didn’t need to be /doesn’t need to one or another thing. Great BP has sister/sibling & makes sense form narrative/in world perspective. Instead of O he should of just created a super powered Wakandan or African diaspora (AA, Caribbean, British & etc ) love interest in addition to Shuri, S’Yan & etc.


    Quote Originally Posted by chief12d View Post
    I always thought that Killmonger had all the makings of an evil T'Challa, like many villains he's a dark mirror of the protagonist with similar skills and personality traits. Killmonger wants the throne that T'Challa wants to keep and while he's not nearly as intelligent he's still pretty smart and makes up for it with a raw tenacity and political acumen rivalled by few in his rogues gallery.

    If we're thinking about an evil T'Challa for BP to go up against, I think all the elements are there for KM to play that role, something the MCU hinted at when they had him literally become an evil version of BP. What he needs more than anything are resources. Competent super-powered underlings (revamped Death Regiments), exotic materials, money, etc. just like the actual T'Challa or characters like Doctor Doom.

    KM needs to evolve past being a stateless warlord and be allowed to become a Silver Sable-type figure for the people of Niganda. Have him liberate that nation through revolution and set up a new high-tech military industrial complex that supports his mercenary work abroad. Meanwhile he uses his other resources to expand his black market operations, build alliances with other African nations, and turn his country into a regional power, all in pursuit of world domination.
    Excellent ideas. I’d like to see KM take over Niganda & have KMjr & Madame Slay be shown to be heads of Lion Cult. That way you give him a power base in & out of Wakanda. You could also play with the idea if KMjr is actually evil/a true villain or is benig used by his parent/parents

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariel81 View Post
    Tchalla ultimate Enemy will always be Killmonger..
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    His ultimate enemy is white editors and Kevin Feigie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiCom View Post
    A thought...

    If we are to assume Wakanda has had advanced tech pre-T'Challa (I believe that is the commonly accepted position?) then it is possible that there was a former Black Panther who, for example, believed that Wakanda should rule.

    He was finally deposed, but they could not kill him for political reasons, so instead he was placed in deep suspended animation, and erased from the histories... the dark secret of the Panther lineage.

    Until, centuries later, the descendants of his partisans (the Desturi, perhaps?) stole his body and used the technology that eventually led to the Resurrection Altar to awaken him.
    That’s definitely would work or could more/less used adapt Bask from PQ

    https://avengersassemble.fandom.com/wiki/Bask

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariel81 View Post
    Tchalla ultimate Enemy will always be Killmonger..
    Writers need to let Killmonger loose like Coates
    Is doing..
    ??? Coates? You mean the N'Jadaka who got blown up and killed by nu-achebe before he and T'Challa even spoke two words to each other let alone see each other? Or the Erik that was taken down by Okoye and needed his army to come save him? The same one shown sipping tea and talking to the symbiote and was almost killed by Storm.. who still hasn't even said a word to T'Challa? Is this considered cutting loose? We have watched for the last 5 years, Coates stunt T'Challa, and frankly his "cutting loose" killmonger doesn't seem any better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Will Evans View Post
    Priest wrote a future story where T’Challa’s own future son T’Charra was a villain.
    Yeah but his son was a punk ass though. That was pretty much stated. I want to see the future T'Challa who outmaneuvered the younger version and whooped Tony's ass. THAT'S a potential evil T'Challa worth exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezyo1000 View Post
    ??? Coates? You mean the N'Jadaka who got blown up and killed by nu-achebe before he and T'Challa even spoke two words to each other let alone see each other? Or the Erik that was taken down by Okoye and needed his army to come save him? The same one shown sipping tea and talking to the symbiote and was almost killed by Storm.. who still hasn't even said a word to T'Challa? Is this considered cutting loose? We have watched for the last 5 years, Coates stunt T'Challa, and frankly his "cutting loose" killmonger doesn't seem any better.



    Yeah but his son was a punk ass though. That was pretty much stated. I want to see the future T'Challa who outmaneuvered the younger version and whooped Tony's ass. THAT'S a potential evil T'Challa worth exploring.
    Couldn’t King Solomon’s Brass Frogs, which currently are in Wakanda, be used to summon a slightly older and evil T’Challa to the present.

    Now that would be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DigiCom View Post
    A thought...

    If we are to assume Wakanda has had advanced tech pre-T'Challa (I believe that is the commonly accepted position?) then it is possible that there was a former Black Panther who, for example, believed that Wakanda should rule.

    He was finally deposed, but they could not kill him for political reasons, so instead he was placed in deep suspended animation, and erased from the histories... the dark secret of the Panther lineage.

    Until, centuries later, the descendants of his partisans (the Desturi, perhaps?) stole his body and used the technology that eventually led to the Resurrection Altar to awaken him.
    That sounds pretty good. The only thing is that I'd want all Wakandans to shun him because if they don't, we'll have another civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dariel81 View Post
    Tchalla ultimate Enemy will always be Killmonger..
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    Honestly, Kilmonger is pretty much played out at this point imo.

    And if this is Coates unleashing Kilmonger then meh.

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    @Agent Z...


    Porn is illegal in Wakanda but rape camps not so much!


    Carry on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FLEX HECTIC View Post
    @Agent Z...


    Porn is illegal in Wakanda but rape camps not so much!


    Carry on...

    Hahaha oh the laughter dulls the pain

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    So any thoughts on whether Wakanda is gonna play any role in Heroes Reborn since it’s about Blade waking up in a universe where the Avengers never existed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvell2100 View Post
    Honestly, Kilmonger is pretty much played out at this point imo.

    And if this is Coates unleashing Kilmonger then meh.
    Really klaw and Erik were completely wasted in Coates era, well really every villain has been wasted completely. He can't be bothered to try a little to make the villain formidable or ever consistent

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