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    Maybe I'm the only one that doesn't get the appeal of Diana having a secret sister with brown skin. How does that help Nubia or Diana?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Maybe I'm the only one that doesn't get the appeal of Diana having a secret sister with brown skin. How does that help Nubia or Diana?
    Nubia being Diana's twin sister garners a lot more attention than Nubia being an ordinary Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha View Post
    Maybe I'm the only one that doesn't get the appeal of Diana having a secret sister with brown skin. How does that help Nubia or Diana?
    You mean aside from adding rich lore to the amazon royal family without adding a male influence, creating a new story path out of Themyscira, expanding Diana's history, and adding a nice bit of diversity to the Wonderfam; which at the time was only Diana, Hippolyta, and (I think) Donna.

    Would you prefer DC bring Jason back or have Donna be Diana's twin? Because, DC seems pretty keen on this secret twin thing for Diana, it might as be one people actually like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HestiasHearth View Post
    Thanks for the links and for sharing that!!
    What do you feel about Diana and Nubia not being siblings?
    In any case, this is literally my most anticipated upcoming WW-related book.
    I cannot wait to see how her story is established!!!
    I was kind of psyched about them being twins again, which was LL McKinney's intention. But with the switch in writers, they decided to go in a different direction, and have valid reasons for wanting that. Honestly, I'm just happy to have Nubia back. So I'll deal with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterwitcher88 View Post
    You mean aside from adding rich lore to the amazon royal family without adding a male influence, creating a new story path out of Themyscira, expanding Diana's history, and adding a nice bit of diversity to the Wonderfam; which at the time was only Diana, Hippolyta, and (I think) Donna.

    Would you prefer DC bring Jason back or have Donna be Diana's twin? Because, DC seems pretty keen on this secret twin thing for Diana, it might as be one people actually like.
    You can do almost all of that without adding a token secret twin sister to the main character who’s name is almost literally “the black one”.

    This is DC’s opportunity to divorce Nubia from that horrible origin once and for all. Hopefully, with some creative storytelling, she will come to stand out as her own character rather than being “Diana’s sister”.

    I hope DC just abandons the ridiculous idea of Diana having ANY twins, though I think it’s funny how folks are willing to accept this change in her origin, but not giving her a dad…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natamaxxx View Post
    You can do almost all of that without adding a token secret twin sister to the main character who’s name is almost literally “the black one”.

    This is DC’s opportunity to divorce Nubia from that horrible origin once and for all. Hopefully, with some creative storytelling, she will come to stand out as her own character rather than being “Diana’s sister”.

    I hope DC just abandons the ridiculous idea of Diana having ANY twins, though I think it’s funny how folks are willing to accept this change in her origin, but not giving her a dad…
    How was Nubia's origin a horrible one? All you'd need to do is have Diana in on the loop that she had a twin, so its not a secret to her just the audience. I wasn't a fan of her graphic novel, but it did that just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masterwitcher88 View Post
    You mean aside from adding rich lore to the amazon royal family without adding a male influence, creating a new story path out of Themyscira, expanding Diana's history, and adding a nice bit of diversity to the Wonderfam; which at the time was only Diana, Hippolyta, and (I think) Donna.

    Would you prefer DC bring Jason back or have Donna be Diana's twin? Because, DC seems pretty keen on this secret twin thing for Diana, it might as be one people actually like.
    Yeah none of those things require this weird idea of her having a sister that was designed to look nothing like her. I think Nubia as hersister is slightly better than Jason, but I would still much rather have Nubia's origin be something else. To me Nubia should be an amazon that arrived on Paradise Island when Diana was 18 years old, and in that way be the first person Diana could relate to in terms of age. And she should be the first amazon to follow Diana's footsteps in leaving Paradise Island to transform our world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfBaldwin View Post
    Nubia and the Amazons writer Stephanie Williams reveals in a recent podcast interview that Nubia will no longer be Diana's twin sister, though they will have a "connection."

    Nubia will, of course, interact with Philippus, with Williams noting how infrequently Black women characters are permitted to interact in a congenial manner in comic books.

    Nubia and the Amazons will be Nubia's "T'Challa moment" and it will be about establishing her origin, powers, and place in history. Her hero's quest story, essentially.

    Starts at about the 2:00:00 mark:

    https://anchor.fm/cerebrocast/episod...lliams-e14iprj
    Well that's disappointing. The whole intent of bringing her back was on the condition of returning her status as Diana's sister.... it would be nice if we could just NOT screw up continuity that they were in the process of establishing. Rebooting something that was in the middle of being told is ridiculous, and yet more of DC continuing their failure to make things " less confusing" in their continuity....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonder39 View Post
    Well that's disappointing. The whole intent of bringing her back was on the condition of returning her status as Diana's sister.... it would be nice if we could just NOT screw up continuity that they were in the process of establishing. Rebooting something that was in the middle of being told is ridiculous, and yet more of DC continuing their failure to make things " less confusing" in their continuity....
    How and where were they setting up Nubia to be Dianas twin again? There was no condition except for 1 writer writing her and they did that for the graphic novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natamaxxx View Post
    You can do almost all of that without adding a token secret twin sister to the main character who’s name is almost literally “the black one”.

    This is DC’s opportunity to divorce Nubia from that horrible origin once and for all. Hopefully, with some creative storytelling, she will come to stand out as her own character rather than being “Diana’s sister”.

    I hope DC just abandons the ridiculous idea of Diana having ANY twins, though I think it’s funny how folks are willing to accept this change in her origin, but not giving her a dad…
    To a lot of people, making her Diana's actual sister is important. She's not just some random Amazon, but of equal importance as a Princess of Themiscyra, daughter to the Queen (in fact, isn't that why Hippolyta made Nubia queen?) She's of equal standing with Diana. Yes you can have another Amazon with all those powers, etc, but at a deeper level, the sisterhood connection is a very important part of why Nubia resonates with a lot of folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primal Slayer View Post
    How and where were they setting up Nubia to be Dianas twin again? There was no condition except for 1 writer writing her and they did that for the graphic novel.
    The writer (who also worked on Nubia's appearances outside of the GN) said the only way they would bring her back was to make her Diana's sister....

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonder39 View Post
    The writer (who also worked on Nubia's appearances outside of the GN) said the only way they would bring her back was to make her Diana's sister....
    I believe that was a criteria unique to her writing Future State. But I am not sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonder39 View Post
    The writer (who also worked on Nubia's appearances outside of the GN) said the only way they would bring her back was to make her Diana's sister....
    That wasn't leading up to ruining anything with them deciding that main Nubia wouldnt be Dianas twin. She can be Diana's honorary sister just like Donna has been depending on one of the many origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm a Fish View Post
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    That is AWESOME!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by SonOfBaldwin View Post
    I was kind of psyched about them being twins again, which was LL McKinney's intention. But with the switch in writers, they decided to go in a different direction, and have valid reasons for wanting that. Honestly, I'm just happy to have Nubia back. So I'll deal with it.
    Same here! I am incredibly excited about this character returning to the book and the mythos, and I look forward to seeing Nubia returning to prominence. She has so much possibility and her story so much potential! I also LOVE that the book will be written and illustrated by FOUR black individuals!!!!! (Steph Williams, Vita Ayala, ALitha Martinez, and Mark Morales). Hell to the motherbleeping yeah!

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