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    New Japan USA needs to work on their marketing.



    That logo placing, sheesh ...
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    Rewatching some AEW over lunch and saw that Cody got juiced after applying a Figure Four. Ric would be proud!

    On OC being #1 contender ... I think that is a by product of the "ranking" system with records.

    AEW started weighting wins I think to avoid these type of feuds. But it feels a bit more organic than your random filler feud. IMHO.

    OC will probably have a strong match and with Omega, it might help the OC detectors see him actually work.

    I don't see OC as a MAIN EVENT talent but it does remind of the Zack Ryder days when he never got a break.

    This feels a bit like a "bone" being thrown to the OC fans rather than strapping a rocket to the back of OC.

    Kayfabe, OC has the record and he's over (the most watched AEW segments are his on YouTube, OC segments are the most shared via social media, etc).

    Non-kayfabe, Kenny is holding the belt(s) for a while. Gonna need some sacrificial lambs sooner or later.
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    If you don't want to see OC vs. Omega, you don't like fun.

    (And good wrestling)

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    Quote Originally Posted by titanfan View Post
    If you don't want to see OC vs. Omega, you don't like fun.

    (And good wrestling)
    Or are Jim Cornette.

    lulz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle View Post
    Not accepting that the product being garbage is why we aren't in another boom period is dumb.
    No, there not being a transcendent talent or angle that would push pro wrestling back into the mainstream is why there isn't another boom period. WWE doesn't need it to make money and AEW constantly shoots itself in the foot too much to ever hope of having one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El Summers View Post
    No, there not being a transcendent talent or angle that would push pro wrestling back into the mainstream is why there isn't another boom period. WWE doesn't need it to make money and AEW constantly shoots itself in the foot too much to ever hope of having one.
    this is the kind of insight that keeps me coming back to this thread. i've got to start thinking outside the box more. it never even occurred to me that aew is the reason there's no hope for another boom period in wrestling.

    so what do you guys think will be on the cover of the death of aew book??

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    Quote Originally Posted by titanfan View Post
    If you don't want to see OC vs. Omega, you don't like fun.

    (And good wrestling)
    I don't see the hype behind OC. His character makes it impossible for me to want to get behind him. I rather see Omega vs PAC again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    this is the kind of insight that keeps me coming back to this thread. i've got to start thinking outside the box more. it never even occurred to me that aew is the reason there's no hope for another boom period in wrestling.

    so what do you guys think will be on the cover of the death of aew book??
    For their to be another boom period in wrestling there needs to be something that grabs a mainstream audience and frankly, AEW ain't doing it. They are doing typical PWG indie bullshit just on a larger stage. Can't have a boom if they want to stay niche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    For their to be another boom period in wrestling there needs to be something that grabs a mainstream audience and frankly, AEW ain't doing it.
    idk about that, the last boom was sparked by word of mouth among wrestling fans. scott hall & kevin nash going to wcw was hardly a big deal to any mainstream audience. i agree that aew isn't going to spark another boom period but they've made a very positive impact on the industry already.

    They are doing typical PWG indie bullshit just on a larger stage. Can't have a boom if they want to stay niche.
    stick with what brought you to the dance i say, i don't want to see aew turn into something else in some feeble attempt to create a boom. it's a wrestling show for fans of wrestling, that's good enough imo.

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    "So you've come to the end now alive but dead inside."

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    this is the kind of insight that keeps me coming back to this thread. i've got to start thinking outside the box more. it never even occurred to me that aew is the reason there's no hope for another boom period in wrestling.

    so what do you guys think will be on the cover of the death of aew book??
    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    idk about that, the last boom was sparked by word of mouth among wrestling fans. scott hall & kevin nash going to wcw was hardly a big deal to any mainstream audience. i agree that aew isn't going to spark another boom period but they've made a very positive impact on the industry already.
    The Monday Night Wars started a build to the boom period. The audiences started to slowly trinkle in as the companies were at WAR against each other. When the War started in 1995 the combined rating of WCW/WWF was nearly a 5.0 . By the time Hall/Nash jumped the combined rating was now over 5.1 . Once Hogan turned and formed the NWO (once the boom period really began) ratings were now over 6.0+ combined .

    The audience was growing into that boom period but the NWO angle super kicked it with Hogan's turn. That was the "moment" where the industry really began that period. People tuned in who hadn't watched for years to see Hulk Hogan as a bad guy. To see him do that. Its why his heel turn is considered the biggest heel turn in wrestling. The only one who could possibly equal that is...Cena ...possibly.
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    There's never going to be another 'boom period'...or at least not like what we saw during the Monday Night Wars. The landscape has changed way too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wjowski View Post
    There's never going to be another 'boom period'...or at least not like what we saw during the Monday Night Wars. The landscape has changed way too much.
    Exactly.

    The original boom happened because there were a lot more people watching wrestling then. And kayfabe was still very much a thing...when Nash and Hall went to WCW vast majority of audiences didn't know it was a work. When the whole NWO thing started, it all seemed real and was passed off as such. All the stuff in the attitude era was "extreme 90s" but it was all passed off as real and people were tuning into see the wackiness of the product. That was when stuff like Jerry Springer and Jackass (in the early 2000s) was still huge. All that stuff just doesn't hit the same anymore and a lot of people will NEVER watch a pro-wrestling show because they know it isn't real.

    Then when you add in just how different wresting is consumed nowadays and I can't see any pro-wrestling boom a la the 90s happening again.
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    I never understood how someone could no longer watch pro wrestling just because it's not "real." I figured out it was all staged when I was 10 years old, but I still enjoy it the same way I enjoy a super-hero movie. I mean, I know that Robert Downey Jr. isn't really flying around in a metal suit, but I still enjoy the movie.
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