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    Last edited by BeastieRunner; 09-23-2021 at 10:56 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    You need to do crazier things to win over Meltzer and/or the Cagematch.com crowd though. The hot crowd was not enough for me, because I saw the action, and it wasn't crazy cool enough, nor every move perfectly executed either. And I'm not even much subtracting from the match due to the no-finish, I don't factor that in much.

    It was simply a very good match that I hope was just a teaser for an even greater PPV match down the road.
    For me it was alright but not the best match of the week, that honor goes to Big E Vs Reigns Vs Lashley

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    AEW was at 18,938 at gate opening. With suite sales ... They could be the first non-WWF/E show since 1998 to break 20k ... Can't wait to hear the final gate numbers!

    It was already the highest attended non-WWE show since 1999. What's another record?

    Edit to add:
    JR tweeted out 20, 177 at TV time and roughly 300 more suites.

    Nice! Good news for wrestling fans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wjowski View Post
    But are his math skills up to snuff?
    LOL! I remember that promo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    AEW is in a spot if they try and cancel Ric Flair . As linked Dustin Rhodes himself was named in other flight attendants deal online and its on sites as posted. So the company will be blasted for keeping Dustin and promoting the school all while blacklisting Flair. Tony Khan really has some hard decisions ahead on this. If he does do that to Flair and points at this people will counter...then why aren't you punishing Dustin Rhodes ?
    seems like an easy decision to me, address the stuff with dustin if he has to since he is an employee and simply don't hire flair. khan doesn't need to address flair's issues since he never hired him in the 1st place. who cares if some jackoffs want to cry about flair being blacklisted?? you don't have to xplain why you didn't hire somebody.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    You need to do crazier things to win over Meltzer and/or the Cagematch.com crowd though. The hot crowd was not enough for me, because I saw the action, and it wasn't crazy cool enough, nor every move perfectly executed either. And I'm not even much subtracting from the match due to the no-finish, I don't factor that in much.

    It was simply a very good match that I hope was just a teaser for an even greater PPV match down the road.
    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    DA MELTZ gave it **** 3/4 already lol.
    well shit, there went that theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    DA MELTZ gave it **** 3/4 already lol.
    Yeah, Meltz gets em wrong many times, and I think he got this one wrong. I think ****

    I bet Cagematch fans will dispute his rating (over time). I see some already. You see the typical expected day-of 10/10 fans on there (every match is apparently 10/10 the night you see it), but over time it will give way to rationality on this match. Strip away this crowd, and you have a slower start to the match, and some other things like missed execution/timing that bring it down some notches IMHO.
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    I have to question a group of fans who need wrestlers to kill themselves to get enjoyment out of a match. Even if you take the hot crowd out of the equation the match was still great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I have to question a group of fans who need wrestlers to kill themselves to get enjoyment out of a match. Even if you take the hot crowd out of the equation the match was still great
    I don't necessarily need anyone to kill themselves to rate this higher (you can get to five star matches by many routes). I think it's only great in the 4 stars and no more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yeah, Meltz gets em wrong many times, and I think he got this one wrong. I think ****

    I bet Cagematch fans will dispute his rating. I see some already. You see the typical expected day-of 10/10 fans on there, but over time it will give way to rationality on this match. Strip away this crowd, and you have a slower start to the match, and some other things that bring it down some notches.
    wrestling fans arguing star ratings is the best thing about the internet, especially when it comes down to fractions of a snowflake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    wrestling fans arguing star ratings is the best thing about the internet, especially when it comes down to fractions of a snowflake.
    Haha. I do love reading match analyses and reviews. The star ratings are increasingly silly and feel meaningless sometimes due to 6 or more stars entering discussions. But at least stars act as sort of a crude or relative snapshot of someone's (hopefully longer) review of a match (or a set of matches).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yeah, Meltz gets em wrong many times, and I think he got this one wrong. I think ****

    I bet Cagematch fans will dispute his rating (over time). I see some already. You see the typical expected day-of 10/10 fans on there (every match is apparently 10/10 the night you see it), but over time it will give way to rationality on this match. Strip away this crowd, and you have a slower start to the match, and some other things like missed execution/timing that bring it down some notches IMHO.
    think about that for a second. working the crowd they're performing in front of being held as a mark against the match.

    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Haha. I do love reading match analyses and reviews. The star ratings are increasingly silly and feel meaningless sometimes due to 6 or more stars entering discussions. But at least stars act as sort of a crude snapshot of someone's hopefully longer review of a match.
    that shit can be outright hilarious when people start haggling over a quarter star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    think about that for a second. working the crowd they're performing in front of being held as a mark against the match.
    They could have got the very same effect, worked up the crowd with more interesting stuff, holds. Bleacher report put it well: "It was a simple story that was almost driven more by the fans than the wrestlers themselves."


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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    They could have got the very same effect, worked up the crowd with more interesting stuff, holds. Bleacher report put it well: "It was a simple story that was almost driven more by the fans than the wrestlers themselves."
    they might've got the same effect by doing the john jacob jingleheimer schmidt routine, but they obviously didn't need to, to get the very same effect.

    of course you're free to judge a match however you want, but when i'm trying to judge fairly i won't hold them not doing what i wanted them to do as a strike against them or the match.

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