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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    idk, i wouldn't say "well before". he was pretty damn good in 2009 and rapidly approaching his prime imo.
    It's all very subjective and arbitrary of course, but I think Omega's prime started around say 2012 (or even after), so I'd say yes and no as far as what one defines as "rapidly approaching" IMHO.

    But Omega was very good in 2009, I don't want it to seem like I'm taking too much from him. We'll just never know what that '09 match might have been had it been serious, I don't just assume that the hypothetical serious 2009 match would be like if they hypothetically wrestled in 2018 in NJPW (2018 Japan being the super ideal year & venue for these two to have wrestled IMHO, sorry AEW).
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    It's all very subjective and arbitrary of course, but I think Omega's prime started around say 2012 (or even after), so I'd say yes and no as far as what one defines as "rapidly approaching" IMHO.

    But Omega was very good in 2009, I don't want it to seem like I'm taking too much from him. We'll just never know what that '09 match might have been had it been serious, I don't just assume that the hypothetical serious 2009 match would be like if they hypothetically wrestled in 2018 in NJPW (2018 Japan being the super ideal year & venue for these two to have wrestled IMHO, sorry AEW).
    ... have you seen the whole match ... ? It wasn't 100% comedy. The ending was an all out balls-to-the-wall clinic in pro wrestling.

    It was more of a love letter to all aspects of pro wrestling. There were chain spots, mat spots, monkey spots, high spots, rest spots, comedy spots, skit spots, promo spots, false finishes ... it was a pretty good 4 star match.

    It will be interesting to see what they do a decade removed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    ... have you seen the whole match ... ? It wasn't 100% comedy. The ending was an all out balls-to-the-wall clinic in pro wrestling.

    It was more of a love letter to all aspects of pro wrestling. There were chain spots, mat spots, monkey spots, high spots, rest spots, comedy spots, skit spots, promo spots, false finishes ... it was a pretty good 4 star match.

    It will be interesting to see what they do a decade removed.
    Yeah, Iíve seen the entire match 2 or 3 times. Itís fun, but no four stars in my book. Though I think they could have produced one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yeah, I’ve seen the entire match 2 or 3 times. It’s fun, but no four stars in my book. Though I think they could have produced one.
    I think it was given 4 stars in several places. But I understand your point. It will be fun to see what they can do now.

    Kenny has left the "comedy wrestler" gimmick behind (which was beginning to fade at that point) and Bryan is looking to get back into "wrestler" mode which he was fully in at that point.

    Both of them have grown as performers. It will be fun to see. I cannot lie but I am hoping for a comedy spot or two.
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    Word around the DERT SHEEETZ is that "the boys in back" in WWE are over the moon for Big E's run.

    And that a rebellion is brewing if Big E is not treated with respect while he has his run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    Word around the DERT SHEEETZ is that "the boys in back" in WWE are over the moon for Big E's run.

    And that a rebellion is brewing if Big E is not treated with respect while he has his run.
    I read that the Smackdown guys wanted to be in Boston to see in person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I read that the Smackdown guys wanted to be in Boston to see in person.
    That's awesome!

    Man, even guys not there are pulling for him. Wyatt just tweeted about him. Love it when a person like that wins.
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    Tommy Dreamer coming off as a piece of shit in the newest episode of Dark Side of the Ring. He's defending Ric Flair commenting sexual misconduct

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    kenny williams luck ran out as noam dar advances
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    It's all very subjective and arbitrary of course, but I think Omega's prime started around say 2012 (or even after), so I'd say yes and no as far as what one defines as "rapidly approaching" IMHO.
    i think often(in pro wrestling) people correlate the start of ones prime with when they got the opportunity to show how good they were. the omega/brianson match happened in april of 09, at the end of that year he won the BOLA and pwg championship. by 2010 he was probably ready for the bigger stages just need the chance to prove it.

    But Omega was very good in 2009, I don't want it to seem like I'm taking too much from him. We'll just never know what that '09 match might have been had it been serious, I don't just assume that the hypothetical serious 2009 match would be like if they hypothetically wrestled in 2018 in NJPW (2018 Japan being the super ideal year & venue for these two to have wrestled IMHO, sorry AEW).
    it's never been a dream match for me anyways as i'm not a fan of either of them. don't get me wrong i recognize how talented each of them are, they've just never been guys i want to cheer. that said i'd probably prefer the match with the comedy spots as i enjoy both guys more when they're being funny.

    i KNOW i'm in the minority but i'd far more enjoy a hybrid dolphins vs men of low moral fiber match at that shitty legion hall in reseda circa 2009 than a singles between brianson and omega at the dome or whatever in 2018 or even in aew now.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    That's awesome!

    Man, even guys not there are pulling for him. Wyatt just tweeted about him. Love it when a person like that wins.
    oh oh, this could be a bad thing. vince might have to make an xample of somebody.

    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Tommy Dreamer coming off as a piece of shit in the newest episode of Dark Side of the Ring. He's defending Ric Flair commenting sexual misconduct

    https://twitter.com/bulletclubita/st...017992192?s=21

    https://twitter.com/bulletclubita/st...929064971?s=21
    i pray, please god do not put andrade with flair. flair doesn't know how to put over anybody but himself these days. well MAYBE charlotte.

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    One aspect of the Plane Ride from Hell I never knew. I knew about Henning and Lesnar , Michael Hayes ponytail , Flair strutting around naked under his robe as usual (its been said Flair does that at times while partying) and general crazy.

    But I never knew Vince McMahon was on that flight with Linda. They both were right there and basically left it to Jim Ross to try and get order. (Ross tried and did get Dustin to sit and pass out asleep)

    Jim Ross taking all the blame on that is crazy. The actual boss is sitting there with him.

    Had Vince walked to the front and told everyone to knock it off etc...its 99% sure they'd listen.
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    Also I never knew it was that bad with flight attendants and wrestlers either. That it led to lawsuit settlement etc. I knew Flair went around naked. But never knew that or Scott Hall deal happened. (I had heard Hall passed out on plane due to things but not grabbing a woman etc)
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    September 2021 was a hard month. 1st Norm McDonald died and then we learned Disney is ruining Indiana Jones in 2022. Just a hard month to take. Hopefully the film tanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    One aspect of the Plane Ride from Hell I never knew. I knew about Henning and Lesnar , Michael Hayes ponytail , Flair strutting around naked under his robe as usual (its been said Flair does that at times while partying) and general crazy.

    But I never knew Vince McMahon was on that flight with Linda. They both were right there and basically left it to Jim Ross to try and get order. (Ross tried and did get Dustin to sit and pass out asleep)

    Jim Ross taking all the blame on that is crazy. The actual boss is sitting there with him.

    Had Vince walked to the front and told everyone to knock it off etc...its 99% sure they'd listen.
    Yeah, the whole thing was a LOT worse than I thought it was.

    EDIT: It also exposed just how much sexual assault was pervasive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    i think often(in pro wrestling) people correlate the start of ones prime with when they got the opportunity to show how good they were. .at the end of [2009] he won the BOLA and pwg championship
    Maybe, but I don't think "primes" always correlate with winning tourneys and titles either (whether indie or WWE or some promotion in between). Too many correlate with that as well. Kurt Angle wasn't in his prime IMHO when he won his first WWE title in Nov 2000 (though Kurt was rapidly approaching it).
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