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    Quote Originally Posted by EmeraldGladiator View Post
    I never understood the appeal. Sure he has name recognition but so would anybody who got that long of an undefeated streak. Meng could have been just as big, lol. Hell Buff Bagwell could have if you let anyone win every match for an extended period of time but I never saw anything in Bill to make him deserving of such a push.
    He had the look. He looked like a guy who would steamroll through people and that's what they had him do.

    Funnily enough his first competitive match was against Meng on WCW Saturday Night. Though I can't remember if that happened before or after his infamous match against Regal

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    Quote Originally Posted by CliffHanger2 View Post
    Yeah Kross getting squashed was a bad move. He really did have legit total package, star quality. Not seeing how this can end up well. They did Keith Lee dirty too, Vince needs some type of intervention.
    Depending on Lee's health issues, he is probably going to fall down the card some until everything lines up again. No shame in losing to the Champ in a competitive match. (Putting up a tougher fight than the last #1 Contender) I kind of like the story they are telling with Lashley--now that he's focused he's incredibly tough to beat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Funnily enough his first competitive match was against Meng on WCW Saturday Night. Though I can't remember if that happened before or after his infamous match against Regal
    The Meng match was about a month before the Regal match. Goldberg vs Regal was awesome, I'm hoping Goldberg finally acknowledged that and thanked Regal for making him look better.

    Regal was a wrestler that I didn't appreciate in the late 90s, early 00s, and now he's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. Regal vs Shinya Hashimoto in Japan, vs Benoit in Japan, Regal vs Benoit Pillman Memorial, Regal vs Belfast Bruiser in WCW, Regal vs Benoit in WCW, Regal vs Eddie Guerrero on a WCW Nitro, Regal vs Rey Mysterio twice in WCW, Regal vs Psychosis, Regal vs Ultimo Dragon, Regal vs British Bulldog, Regal vs Flair, Regal vs Larry Zbyszko, Regal vs Stemboat. Regal had such a great career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    The Meng match was about a month before the Regal match. Goldberg vs Regal was awesome, I'm hoping Goldberg finally acknowledged that and thanked Regal for making him look better.

    Regal was a wrestler that I didn't appreciate in the late 90s, early 00s, and now he's one of my favorite wrestlers of all time. Regal vs Shinya Hashimoto in Japan, vs Benoit in Japan, Regal vs Benoit Pillman Memorial, Regal vs Belfast Bruiser in WCW, Regal vs Benoit in WCW, Regal vs Eddie Guerrero on a WCW Nitro, Regal vs Rey Mysterio twice in WCW, Regal vs Psychosis, Regal vs Ultimo Dragon, Regal vs British Bulldog, Regal vs Flair, Regal vs Larry Zbyszko, Regal vs Stemboat. Regal had such a great career.
    I don't think Goldberg ever told his side of story when it came to the Regal match. I tend to believe Regal about how things went down.

    I always found Regal to be boring during his prime years. I didn't grow to appreciate him until GM and King of the Ring run in 2008 when he was getting nuclear levels of heat. It sucks that he fall off the wagon in what would have been a career peak for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    I always found Regal to be boring during his prime years.
    You should give his prime years another shot. Like every wrestling video guy on Youtube thinks Regal's prime matches have aged really well. A lot of his best WCW (and WWE) matches are on YouTube and Dailymotion.

    Found a Japan match of his: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7rueys

    It may be that I'm just one of those workrate type fans who really digs his physical, stiff, technical, unorthodox/Euro style. I also love Dave/Fit Finlay. I don't know, but Regal is right there in my all time favorites list with Benoit, Guerrero, Mysterio, Bryan Danielson, Angle, Finlay, Liger, Otani, Malenko, etc. Something about their workmanship and craft, their dedication. I can watch Regal matches all day (and have done so!).
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    2 of the 3 agents and the ref have corroborated Regal's account. The third agent only recalled the time being told to him from "the office" as 7 minutes with cut intros for a minimum 5 minute match.

    Bischoff has said that was the plan but that Regal "took it too far" but how can you go too far when the idiot in the ring just stands there when you're holding onto his leg??

    The agents even laid out the comebacks for Goldberg in gorilla. The ref (I want to say it was Jay) has been on record telling Bill, "That's a suplex call. That's a bump take. That's a set. That's the block signal." And Bill was lost and ignored all the ques from Regal and the ref. Bill was instructed in gorilla to let Regal roll out the Jackhammer (with the finish being another spear when Regal plays the crowd after landing on his feet, followed by 2 Jackhammers), only for Bill to roll him into the finish, tell the ref he's gassed, and Regal just says, "Fuck it" when Bill takes him over for the setup.

    The fact Bill was so green and couldn't take the cues, says a lot about him as a person and the respect he has (had?) for the business. He could easily just say, "I made a rookie mistake." And boom, nobody brings it up again.

    It is in infamous garbage match, with 5 wrestling moves, mostly from Regal shooting on Goldberg and Regal trying to maneuver to take clean bumps to make Bill look good. It was notable as being the first 5 plus minute Goldberg match during his streak as well as the match Jericho started calling him Greenberg in the back (and later in promos). It's a 2 star match at best on DA MELTZ scale (still not a rated match of Goldberg's) and oddly one of Goldberg's best matches ever until the first of his few 3 star matches began with DDP starting in October of that year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    oddly one of Goldberg's best matches ever until the first of his few 3 star matches began with DDP starting in October of that year.
    Yup. What an embarrassing match for Goldberg, despite it being among his best. Vs Regal, vs DDP, vs Bret Hart, vs Scott Steiner...those are the better matches of Goldberg's WCW career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yup. What an embarrassing match for Goldberg, despite it being among his best. Vs Regal, vs DDP, vs Bret Hart, vs Scott Steiner...those are the better matches of Goldberg's WCW career.
    the matches he had with Saturn I felt were underrated

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    Regal was from an era of working matches with nice technical wrestling. In his prime early WCW years he was pretty much one of the best mat wrestling guys the company had. A fact that Larry Zbysko joked that he once was calling matches on Saturday Night and almost every match was ...CLOTHESLINE ! ANOTHER CLOTHESLINE !

    That he made a bet with a road agent (name escapes me) where they'd bet on the number of clotheslines done on a show or PPV. That it became a running joke that no one could actually do anything really different than typical move repeatedly every match. He felt bored by it til he saw Regal who in one whole match...never did one clothesline. He just worked a mat based match and did other things.

    He really liked what he saw and convinced WCW to let him come out of retirement briefly to do a match with him. It was like 25-30+ minutes and the 2 wanted to show they never had to throw that 1 move an entire match. As he joked the entire match didn't have a clothesline done.
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    Jericho vs nick gage is a match I would never imagine ever happening. Not a dream match for me but still just never in a million years would I have guessed.

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    I never saw a Nick Gage match, until just right now, when I pulled up Youtube and watched MJF (pre-AEW I think) vs Nick Gage in Beyond Wrestling (link below), and I expected Nick to be kind of like New Jack or that Necro Butcher guy...all hardcore (punch, kick, hardcore, and that's it) and no wrestling, but I was wrong, he has some actual wrestling talent. I'm sure that talent is not what he's famous for, but I was pleasantly surprised.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX1BVFPK18o

    So, I'm glad I have a sense of Nick before this interesting upcoming match with Jericho, which I'm sure will be all hardcore and very little wrestling. It seems he's kinda like a cross between Foley/New Jack/etc and like Justin Credible.


    Also, ANOTHER HELLUVA Dynamite. AEW is on fire, molten. I cannot wait until next week, the card is off the charts.
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    So there are rumors swirling that Daniel Bryan has signed with AEW.

    If that's true, that's going to be a game changer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    So there are rumors swirling that Daniel Bryan has signed with AEW.

    If that's true, that's going to be a game changer.
    Yea, I'd go berserk. I'm trying to not get sucked in on that until it's official. I'm not sure what Bodyslam.net's track record is as far as its sources.

    The report is interesting...he'd be able to work in Japan also. That's a coup for NJPW as well right there. If all this is true.
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    Archer being IWGP US Champ is gonna be fun!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Username taken View Post
    So there are rumors swirling that Daniel Bryan has signed with AEW.

    If that's true, that's going to be a game changer.
    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    Yea, I'd go berserk. I'm trying to not get sucked in on that until it's official. I'm not sure what Bodyslam.net's track record is as far as its sources.

    The report is interesting...he'd be able to work in Japan also. That's a coup for NJPW as well right there. If all this is true.
    Well I had posted a week or so ago about AEW attempting a trademark on American Dragon and WWE dropping Bryan from 2K22. Even though they scanned a new model for him. This last week, the WWE has been scrubbing Bryan from virtually everything. I'd say that means he is gone 100% from WWE to say the least.

    Add that to the the ongoing CM Punk negotiations, AEW could get wild in a few weeks.
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