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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Hey Super, what do you think of this idea of CM Punk returning as a heel to help MJF and helping him retain the title so he can take it to WWE when his contract expires next year.

    https://twitter.com/lariatoooooo/sta...lK1M9YCpQ&s=19
    He signed an extension through 2025, FYI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Hey Super, what do you think of this idea of CM Punk returning as a heel to help MJF and helping him retain the title so he can take it to WWE when his contract expires next year.

    https://twitter.com/lariatoooooo/sta...lK1M9YCpQ&s=19
    I really think If Punk does come back and aligns with MJF the 2 will be the biggest heel tandem together.

    I would time it where Omega is facing MJF at the PPV. Play it where Bucks and Hangman keep some of MJF's guys all at bay. Lights go out and in Ring is Punk...and he nails Kenny Omega with a chair shot.

    Helping MJF win to everyone's shock. As the 2 men align.

    If AEW is gonna plant the Elite as the main event faces then you need that equal power with MJF. And well...Punk is it with MJF.

    I know he can tease him and Max are leaving. But everyone will know they are staying for good.
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    News Rumors Bits & Bobs:

    - Undertaker and Michelle McCool are going to be at SS, no word if they'll be on camera.

    - Sasha Banks and Naomi are not confirmed to be there.

    - Becky Lynch is in Boston.

    - Maryse is filming some reality show stuff in Boston.

    - Gabi Butler signed a NIL deal with WWE.

    - Mia Yim is ... Mia Yim again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastieRunner View Post
    News Rumors Bits & Bobs:

    - Undertaker and Michelle McCool are going to be at SS, no word if they'll be on camera.

    - Sasha Banks and Naomi are not confirmed to be there.

    - Becky Lynch is in Boston.

    - Maryse is filming some reality show stuff in Boston.

    - Gabi Butler signed a NIL deal with WWE.

    - Mia Yim is ... Mia Yim again.
    In other words nothing is happening in wrestling at the moment.

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    Saw a meme online where it predicts WWE's future, and it's simply The Bloodline all as very old bearded men holding the same titles.
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    Looks like Jeff Jarrett is sticking around on TV. He didn't deserve that TNA sucks chant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Looks like Jeff Jarrett is sticking around on TV. He didn't deserve that TNA sucks chant
    Considering how Khan signed a number of TNA production people and they recruited talent from there ...no. Buts its an audience that believes Jarrett is some terrible worker etc. Seeing clips of him against Sting ...he sold Sting perfect in that tag match at PPV. They showed him and Sting working and you'd think...this isn't some 50+ year old man selling for a 60+ year old. The 2 looked crisp in punches and kicks thrown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    Looks like Jeff Jarrett is sticking around on TV. He didn't deserve that TNA sucks chant
    I don't see why he didn't deserve it. Jeff was a big highly-promoted star of TNA and fans are allowed to hate TNA. If Hogan showed up on AEW and fans chanted "WCW Sucks" or "WWE Sucks," Hogan can't say he didn't deserve that, as if he wasn't a very big representative feature of both promotions.

    That fans had a such a strong negative reaction to TNA reflects more on TNA's legacy of failings than anything else IMHO. And I say that as someone who enjoys and owns many TNA matches. IMHO if you join a promotion, and you're a huge star for it, you kinda have to own that promotion and what fans come to associate with it.
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    Jericho needs to work that style more often; that was his best match since New Japan. And a late MotY contender.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    I don't see why he didn't deserve it. Jeff was a big highly-promoted star of TNA and fans are allowed to hate TNA. If Hogan showed up on AEW and fans chanted "WCW Sucks" or "WWE Sucks," Hogan can't say he didn't deserve that, as if he wasn't a very big representative feature of both promotions.

    That fans had a such a strong negative reaction to TNA reflects more on TNA's legacy of failings than anything else IMHO. And I say that as someone who enjoys and owns many TNA matches. IMHO if you join a promotion, and you're a huge star for it, you kinda have to own that promotion and what fans come to associate with it.
    some of his handful of fans will make xcuses/rationalize/justify his booking of himself on top in tna but the truth is his booking sucked period, whether he was on top or not he was a shitty booker and was responsible for the 2nd coming of russo. my fond memories of tna of that era are 90% because the talent in the ring.

    that said i agree he didn't deserve that chant, he didn't deserve any chant at all especially after stealing jericho's assclown bit. he did deserve to get no sold by ass man though, that was pretty funny.

    really happy to see house of black back, hopefully all those issues have been ironed out.

    brit vs hayter is coming. i hope they turn brit face and keep jamie heel.

    omega biting pac on the forearm and using the gts etc was a nice touch and clearly an F U to fans who chanted fuck cm punk.

    main event was fun, never seen a chest open up like that from chops. pretty gross.
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    The excuses for Jarrett and TNA is the actual real reasons why the NWA World title didn't get thrown around to whoever we wanted or who fans wanted from 2002-2006. Since Lbo keeps ignoring it.


    - The idea was Ken Shamrock was gonna be their BIG STAR and the NWA allowed TNA to use their titles on a working deal. The NWA had to strip someone of the title with Shamrock approved for it. Once Ken left the company then tried Killens awhile but with money issues (Panda bailed them out) they had to go to the old territory concept awhile til things changed.


    - The territory concept like Lawler in Memphis or Verne in AWA was that they knew Jeff Jarrett would never up and leave the company for WWE or anywhere else. Like Shamrock did UFC then. So to protect the company and brand , Jarrett carried the belt awhile then.


    - Beyond Raven (who we can say , sure he should have gotten a run in 2002 than AJ Styles then) the roster was full of young guys not ready or guys who clearly just didn't deserve the belt. I like Jerry Lynn and Justin Credible but they weren't really stars by this stage and were World Champions in a dying ECW those final months. Scott Hall was undpendable , Kid Kash was mid-card heel and could have rose up , Abyss wasn't ready then etc.


    - So you have a company with a lot of stars NOT READY to get that push with a mix of mid card heels and faces who weren't ....big stars. Beyond Raven. You have the NWA committee which had approval on title changes and actually led to TNA finally in 2007 breaking away.


    - Once the company signed stars like : Sting , Christian , Booker T , Scott Steiner and Kurt Angle with stars like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles stepping up ...what happened ? Jarrett would be on TV rarely beyond his big Angle feud and he never became World Champion again as he didn't need to anymore.

    1- They had stars signed to make World Champion by this stage.
    2- The young guys like AJ Styles and Samoa Joe was ready to be World Champion.
    3- The NWA was no longer a factor on title changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1 View Post
    The excuses for Jarrett and TNA is the actual real reasons why the NWA World title didn't get thrown around to whoever we wanted or who fans wanted from 2002-2006. Since Lbo keeps ignoring it.


    - The idea was Ken Shamrock was gonna be their BIG STAR and the NWA allowed TNA to use their titles on a working deal. The NWA had to strip someone of the title with Shamrock approved for it. Once Ken left the company then tried Killens awhile but with money issues (Panda bailed them out) they had to go to the old territory concept awhile til things changed.


    - The territory concept like Lawler in Memphis or Verne in AWA was that they knew Jeff Jarrett would never up and leave the company for WWE or anywhere else. Like Shamrock did UFC then. So to protect the company and brand , Jarrett carried the belt awhile then.


    - Beyond Raven (who we can say , sure he should have gotten a run in 2002 than AJ Styles then) the roster was full of young guys not ready or guys who clearly just didn't deserve the belt. I like Jerry Lynn and Justin Credible but they weren't really stars by this stage and were World Champions in a dying ECW those final months. Scott Hall was undpendable , Kid Kash was mid-card heel and could have rose up , Abyss wasn't ready then etc.


    - So you have a company with a lot of stars NOT READY to get that push with a mix of mid card heels and faces who weren't ....big stars. Beyond Raven. You have the NWA committee which had approval on title changes and actually led to TNA finally in 2007 breaking away.


    - Once the company signed stars like : Sting , Christian , Booker T , Scott Steiner and Kurt Angle with stars like Samoa Joe and AJ Styles stepping up ...what happened ? Jarrett would be on TV rarely beyond his big Angle feud and he never became World Champion again as he didn't need to anymore.

    1- They had stars signed to make World Champion by this stage.
    2- The young guys like AJ Styles and Samoa Joe was ready to be World Champion.
    3- The NWA was no longer a factor on title changes.
    sounds like xcuses and rationalization to me, but despite the bullshit that i won't bother to dissect in 2022 why did the booking need to suck?? why after a lifetime in the business did slapnuts suck at booking a wrestling promotion and lack the sense to not bring russo in??

    why would something like this not seem out of the ordinary when slapnuts was in charge??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    I don't see why he didn't deserve it. Jeff was a big highly-promoted star of TNA and fans are allowed to hate TNA. If Hogan showed up on AEW and fans chanted "WCW Sucks" or "WWE Sucks," Hogan can't say he didn't deserve that, as if he wasn't a very big representative feature of both promotions.

    That fans had a such a strong negative reaction to TNA reflects more on TNA's legacy of failings than anything else IMHO. And I say that as someone who enjoys and owns many TNA matches. IMHO if you join a promotion, and you're a huge star for it, you kinda have to own that promotion and what fans come to associate with it.
    The last time Jarrett was in TNA in any real compacity was during the GFW merger. I'm pretty sure the company got sold to Anthem after that failed to generate interest. I get he created the company but that's like still associating Stan Lee with Marvel when he hasn't worked for them in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigLbo View Post
    sounds like xcuses and rationalization to me, but despite the bullshit that i won't bother to dissect in 2022 why did the booking need to suck?? why after a lifetime in the business did slapnuts suck at booking a wrestling promotion and lack the sense to not bring russo in??

    why would something like this not seem out of the ordinary when slapnuts was in charge??

    Dutch Mantell broke it down that Jeff Jarrett wasn't soley in charge here. He was a part of booking committee . Vince Russo , Dutch Mantell , Scott D'Amore , Glen Gilbertti (Disco) , Dusty Rhodes , Jim Cornette and even Jeremy Borash all seemingly weaved in and out of booking committee. Dutch himself booked the Knockouts for 2-3 years since no one else wanted to do it then.

    Jarrett was a part of it. This article in 2004 brings up him being replaced at one point. But TNA was a weird evolving door place with guys shifting in and out beyond Russo for years. lol


    https://www.wrestlezone.com/news/236...booker-for-tna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Weapon View Post
    The last time Jarrett was in TNA in any real compacity was during the GFW merger. I'm pretty sure the company got sold to Anthem after that failed to generate interest. I get he created the company but that's like still associating Stan Lee with Marvel when he hasn't worked for them in years.

    We have to be honest here... there is a segment of these fans of AEW who were older Ring of Honor fans. They still hold a grudge over TNA making guys not work Ring of Honor then in early 2000's after a situation emerged. Remember how the old ROH fans would chant f-ck TNA during shows ? Well that is a base of what Khan has here.

    Its impressive Jarrett still gets heel heat for title reigns he had nearly 20 years ago. That is impressive to see. This is how good a heel he really is.
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    September 2021 was a hard month. 1st Norm McDonald died and then we learned Disney is ruining Indiana Jones in 2022. Just a hard month to take. Hopefully the film tanks.

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