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[BigLbo]

So basically they let a new person enter the Battle Royal without the magical wins in ranking system ?

now you're starting to get it, though i'm not sure what's magical about wins in a ranking system. if you're not familiar with the casino battle royal and joker concept maybe this will(even though they did xplain at the ppv) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino...e_Royale#Rules

I mean , we have to accept this reasoning. AEW saw a hot singles star and wanted to give her a big push coming in and did it. Same with Danielson (Also how are Bucks and Good Brothers ranked as solo stars ? Are they ranked high or what beyond tag teams ? to keep the ranking system without it being silly )

In all the company getting rid of it would work best. This way a hot heel down the line like MJF wouldn't need all these big ranked wins to get a Title shot or a future hot debut down that line.

maybe, i mean everyone is entitled to their opinion but you don't have to pretend it's confusing when it's really not.

mjf would only need one big win to be in the title picture, he's got a very good win loss record. i don't think guys needing to win some matches to get a title shot is a big problem for most fans.

[SUPERECWFAN1]

now you're starting to get it, though i'm not sure what's magical about wins in a ranking system. if you're not familiar with the casino battle royal and joker concept maybe this will(even though they did xplain at the ppv) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casino...e_Royale#Rules



maybe, i mean everyone is entitled to their opinion but you don't have to pretend it's confusing when it's really not.

mjf would only need one big win to be in the title picture, he's got a very good win loss record. i don't think guys needing to win some matches to get a title shot is a big problem for most fans.

Part of me thinks weeks ago where I was told how AEW wouldn't change how its booked and how silly I was to expect AEW to debut a guy right at facing Omega (Danielson instead of Punk) or Ruby etc. In all I give them props for doing it. But its more or less having a chuckle at how I was told repeatedly AEW didn't need to do this type of booking then. Now its ...ok they are doing this now.

[Immortal Weapon]

Seems Cole is facing Kazarian soon. That seems to be where that is going. They just had Ruby break the rule as well. I mean ...its just a shit rule. Rank systems rarely work in pro wrestling as heels will lose a lot as do faces at times. Danielson coming out hopefully has them deciding to end the rule.

Ruby won a #1 contenders battle royale. That's why she's getting a shot. AEW is no stranger to #1 contendership matches. It's how Jungle Boy got his shot against Omega. The only terrible thing about the ranking system is it's not consistent. Miro has been on a tear since winning the TNT championship and he's not on the top 5 for some reason.

[BigLbo]

Part of me thinks weeks ago where I was told how AEW wouldn't change how its booked and how silly I was to expect AEW to debut a guy right at facing Omega (Danielson instead of Punk) or Ruby etc. In all I give them props for doing it. But its more or less having a chuckle at how I was told repeatedly AEW didn't need to do this type of booking then. Now its ...ok they are doing this now.

this happens because you have an uncanny(maybe even superhuman??) ability to miss the point of what people are saying to you. nobody was saying it's silly to put somebody into contention right away, we were saying you were being silly to suggest it HAD TO happen that way and you were being silly to suggest that having darby as punk's 1st match ruin his run in the company. THAT is what was silly.

Ruby won a #1 contenders battle royale. That's why she's getting a shot. AEW is no stranger to #1 contendership matches. It's how Jungle Boy got his shot against Omega. The only terrible thing about the ranking system is it's not consistent. Miro has been on a tear since winning the TNT championship and he's not on the top 5 for some reason.

miro is not in the top 5 because he's a champ, same with omega, the tag, and women champs. they should probably establish a separate ranking for the tnt title.

MJF not being in the top 5 is the real head scratcher, he's only had like 1 singles loss in forever.

i would like for aew to stop booking good brothers, they're really not needed now.

[JBatmanFan05]

It was a strong Dynamite and I realized that part of that absolutely had to do with the star power in the promos all night.

Wrestlers who should be main eventers in AEW IMHO: Omega, Danielson, Punk, MJF, Cole, Malakai Black, Christian, Darby, Moxley, PAC, Andrade, Hangman Page, Cody, Jericho (I guess)...and I think that might be all. Miro might be right near that level too now.

[BigLbo]

It was a strong Dynamite and I realized that part of that absolutely had to do with the star power in the promos all night.

Wrestlers who should be main eventers in AEW IMHO: Omega, Danielson, Punk, MJF, Cole, Malakai Black, Christian, Darby, Moxley, PAC, Andrade, Hangman Page, Cody, Jericho (I guess)...and I think that might be all. Miro might be right near that level too now.

the cool thing is with their ppv schedule as it is, any of those guys could main event or be built up to it from one ppv to the next(even with a rankings system in place).

[JBatmanFan05]

the cool thing is with their ppv schedule as it is, any of those guys could main event or be built up to it from one ppv to the next(even with a rankings system in place).

I'm still adjusting to AEW's PPV schedule, I'm so used to monthly PPVs. I think AEW needs to use Dynamite main events as pseudo PPV main events more, and build up some Dynamite main events more. Too many Dynamites seem to lack build up or anticipation to the main event. Too much seems on the fly.

[BigLbo]

I'm still adjusting to AEW's PPV schedule, I'm so used to monthly PPVs. I think AEW needs to use Dynamite main events as pseudo PPV main events more, and build up some Dynamite main events more.

i think they do that pretty well already with their dynamite specials, imo they're now building to grand slam.

Too many Dynamites seem to lack build up or anticipation to the main event. Too much seems on the fly.

i really don't get that vibe at all.

[Immortal Weapon]

I'm still adjusting to AEW's PPV schedule, I'm so used to monthly PPVs. I think AEW needs to use Dynamite main events as pseudo PPV main events more, and build up some Dynamite main events more. Too many Dynamites seem to lack build up or anticipation to the main event. Too much seems on the fly.

They are do special Dynamites like Fyter Fest, Fight for the Fallen, the cruise shows. They get treated like major shows.

I don't really notice the lack of build to the main-event. Likely because Dynamite doesn't have the show resolve around it. It gives other programs chances to shine.

miro is not in the top 5 because he's a champ, same with omega, the tag, and women champs. they should probably establish a separate ranking for the tnt title.

I don't think rankings can work with the TNT title. It's treated like a TV championship with weekly defenses. That would be difficult to rank

[JBatmanFan05]

They are do special Dynamites like Fyter Fest, Fight for the Fallen, the cruise shows. They get treated like major shows.

It might just be that I'm personally not all adjusted to the coming & going of these awesome special shows they do. And l looked at a schedule on wikipedia and they happen on kinda random dates throughout the year.

All I think I'm trying to say is that maybe possibly it would be wise to make up for not having monthly PPVs by really building up some special show (or Dynamite) main events more. Maybe that way fans could get some more instant gratification payoff on certain feuds or dream matches (and don't get me wrong, the special shows do a decent job of doing this already, just maybe they can or must do even better). There is something to be said for monthly PPVs and I think so many wrestling fans are just used to that model, for better or worse, and it helps satiate fan desire for more instant gratification in a wrestling world where wrestlers don't have forever to be healthy and in their prime.

[Immortal Weapon]

I like the break away of monthly PPV. It means that feuds have time to breathe and we're not plagued with endless rematches or nothing matches to try to fill a card. NXT has done this really well and I'm happy to see AEW following that example. It's mainline WWE that still does monthly PPV

[djk61387]

Don't forget that Dynamite also has special episodes and the TNT specials that will be coming. I like that they're doing those along with fewer PPVs.

[titanfan]

I like the break away of monthly PPV. It means that feuds have time to breathe and we're not plagued with endless rematches or nothing matches to try to fill a card. NXT has done this really well and I'm happy to see AEW following that example. It's mainline WWE that still does monthly PPV

Yeah there's absolutely no reason for WWE to do monthly PPVs now, with most people having WWE Network. I'm guessing the Network audience wants quality over quantity. They could throw in other specials etc that mean more.

[Noodle]

I'm guessing the Network audience wants quality over quantity. They could throw in other specials etc that mean more.

It's not about what the network audience wants. It's about what the network wants. WWE has made that abundantly clear over the past few years.

NBCUniversal paid a ton of money to buy the network for Peacock. They want a constant flow of content for it to make it worth their money. Yes, they could fill that with specials and documentaries, but monthly PPVs ensure that subscribers keep their subscription each month in order to watch them. Not to mention if they just replaced them with documentaries and specials then WWE would lose out on the ticket and merchandise sales from the PPV live audiences.

[JBatmanFan05]

Don't forget that Dynamite also has special episodes and the TNT specials that will be coming. I like that they're doing those along with fewer PPVs.

I forgot about the coming annual specials. It's very possible that the "four new annual specials will air on TNT starting in 2022" will satisfy my desire to get more big events out of AEW per year. With so much talent now, IMHO they just need more big events to showcase big main eventers wrestling each other.

Dynamite & the (often great) specials (and Rampage, etc) alone just don't seem sufficient right now to me. You can just keep it to 4 PPVs, but you really, really need other big major events (maybe like these 4 new annuals) to make it seem like there are way more than 4 PPVs even though there is not.