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[CliffHanger2]

Why are you being so dense about the Mandy situation? If a major sponsor or network told WWE they were unhappy with what she was doing or if Mandy's contract, which she willingly signed, explicitly said she can't do the things she was doing it's pretty self explanatory why she was fired. You keep deflecting to "but but people have sex irl!" Yeah they do, people also take shits irl but do we need a graphic scene of Otis taking a dump on Raw?

If there were softcore porn level scenes on Sesame Street would you be cool with a young kid watching it? If the answer is no why are you shocked that a company with a kid and family friendly image and sponsors wanted Mandy to stop what she was doing?

On the Regal and Tony Khan front I ask again if everything was 100% kosher why did Tony include a clause where Regal can't appear on tv as a character for a year? What's the point of that?

Why are you comparing soft porn on a fansite to Otis taking a dump on Raw? Uh uh not cool.

[The True Detective]

jeez, i thought i went over this 2-3 times already?? i agree if it's her contract she can't do that stuff then she has nothing to complain about, and i don't blame wwe for not wanting to lose sponsors. i'm commenting on society in general


sesame street is on public access television, how is that the same as somebody posting on their private pay to view streams or whatever??



storyline purposes and optics in general would be my guess. i think it was pretty kind of kahn to let regal out of his contract, not appearing on tv for a while seems fair to me.

But if there's nothing inherently wrong with a woman simulating masturbation why does it matter where it's being done? Because society says so? If there's nothing morally wrong with Mandy's actions surely it would be fine for kids to see it. That's my main issue you're trying to have it both ways. On the one hand according to you what she does is tame stuff even middle schoolers won't be titillated by but OTOH it's not something a kid should be seeing.

It's bs that he can't be on tv for a whole year and I'm not even sure how he can enforce that rule if Regal is no longer his employee. What if Regal immediately wants to manage his son on tv? Why should he have to wait an entire year to do that? Everybody already knows Regal's going back to WWE, keeping him off their tv for 365 days isn't hiding that fact. When Dustin Rhodes, Andrade and Toni Storm all requested their early releases even the famously petty Vince let them go with no "you can't be on tv for a year" clause. If you're gonna do something, do it, no half-assing. He should've let Regal go 100% now he looks petty and paranoid.

[CliffHanger2]

But if there's nothing inherently wrong with a woman simulating masturbation why does it matter where it's being done? Because society says so? If there's nothing morally wrong with Mandy's actions surely it would be fine for kids to see it. That's my main issue you're trying to have it both ways. On the one hand according to you what she does is tame stuff even middle schoolers won't be titillated by but OTOH it's not something a kid should be seeing.

It's bs that he can't be on tv for a whole year and I'm not even sure how he can enforce that rule if Regal is no longer his employee. What if Regal immediately wants to manage his son on tv? Why should he have to wait an entire year to do that? Everybody already knows Regal's going back to WWE, keeping him off their tv for 365 days isn't hiding that fact. When Dustin Rhodes, Andrade and Toni Storm all requested their early releases even the famously petty Vince let them go with no "you can't be on tv for a year" clause. If you're gonna do something, do it, no half-assing. He should've let Regal go 100% now he looks petty and paranoid.

Dude there's alot of things that aren't ok for little kids to see that aren't morally wrong. Wtf? You think Vince McMahon is a moral person?

[BigLbo]

But if there's nothing inherently wrong with a woman simulating masturbation why does it matter where it's being done? Because society says so? If there's nothing morally wrong with Mandy's actions surely it would be fine for kids to see it. That's my main issue you're trying to have it both ways. On the one hand according to you what she does is tame stuff even middle schoolers won't be titillated by but OTOH it's not something a kid should be seeing.

i think it's ok for a woman to not only simulate but even actually masturbate, but no i don't think it's ok to do so in front of kids. i feel the same about sex, what is the issue you have with that again??

It's bs that he can't be on tv for a whole year and I'm not even sure how he can enforce that rule if Regal is no longer his employee. What if Regal immediately wants to manage his son on tv? Why should he have to wait an entire year to do that? Everybody already knows Regal's going back to WWE, keeping him off their tv for 365 days isn't hiding that fact. When Dustin Rhodes, Andrade and Toni Storm all requested their early releases even the famously petty Vince let them go with no "you can't be on tv for a year" clause. If you're gonna do something, do it, no half-assing. He should've let Regal go 100% now he looks petty and paranoid.

i don't agree with that but don't care enough to argue it either.

[The True Detective]

Dude there's alot of things that aren't ok for little kids to see that aren't morally wrong. Wtf? You think Vince McMahon is a moral person?

I never said he was a moral person he very obviously is not, that's why Tony making Regal wait a year to be on tv comes off even worse. You know what you did is bad when even Vince didn't do it. He could've told Dustin, Andrade and Toni they could go anywhere but could only work backstage for a whole year but Eben his evil ass didn't do that instead letting them go no strings attached.

I compared the Otis scenario to Mandy's because BigLbo's argument was essentially if people do something irl it's fine for public viewing. He kept saying parents have sex implying kids seeing sexual acts isn't that bad. Just because something isn't morally wrong doesn't mean everyone will be OK with it. There's a reason very few female wrestlers with Onlyfans or similar sites post content like Mandy's despite how lucrative it is.

[BigLbo]

Dude there's alot of things that aren't ok for little kids to see that aren't morally wrong. Wtf? You think Vince McMahon is a moral person?

starting to wonder if he knows how kids are made.

[Immortal Weapon]

I never said he was a moral person he very obviously is not, that's why Tony making Regal wait a year to be on tv comes off even worse. You know what you did is bad when even Vince didn't do it. He could've told Dustin, Andrade and Toni they could go anywhere but could only work backstage for a whole year but Eben his evil ass didn't do that instead letting them go no strings attached.

I compared the Otis scenario to Mandy's because BigLbo's argument was essentially if people do something irl it's fine for public viewing. He kept saying parents have sex implying kids seeing sexual acts isn't that bad. Just because something isn't morally wrong doesn't mean everyone will be OK with it. There's a reason very few female wrestlers with Onlyfans or similar sites post content like Mandy's despite how lucrative it is.

It's not that big of a deal. The only one screen role WWE could have for Regal would be as a manager or a commentator. They don't do GMs anymore

[The True Detective]

It's not that big of a deal. The only one screen role WWE could have for Regal would be as a manager or a commentator. They don't do GMs anymore

Like I said he could manage his son down in NXT if he wants without having to wait a year to do it. It's really more about the principle, when someone no longer works for you you shouldn't care what they do at their new job. No one finds it odd that Tony Khan immediately used Regal as an onscreen character as soon as he came in after his WWE release? Do you guys think Tony would've liked it if William told him he'd have to wait a year to be on tv because Vince McMahon added that stipulation to his contract? Tony's the same guy who was mad WWE tweeted a gif of Regal saying War Games the day of Survivor Series. Mad they used footage they owned now he's being petty for no reason.

[wjowski]

So basically Konnan called out some young talents who are rather playing video games than actually getting free help or classes from Bryan Danielson or Regal.

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1136288...ing-from-vets/

Here is the thing...I don't mind talents playing video games. I love playing them myself. Yes they should be able to play them at times.

But if the American Dragon goes...hey let's hit the ring and go over some ring work...I'd think you would right ? You can always play games for sure. But having a veteran wanna spend time helping you is great.

Shane Douglas discussed this in a recent shoot about himself years ago when he came in. He was just a couple years out of camp. When he got to WCW in 1989 he idolized Flair.

Not wanting to be seen as a mark or anything bad...he walked up to Flair and told him he loved his work. That he knew he was busy and could understand if he couldn't do it. But he asked if he'd give him pointers if he watched his matches.

Flair put his arm on his shoulder and praised Douglas. That he'd be honored too. Then for weeks Shane got some generic feed back and he wondered...is he watching.

So he tested Flair with a spot where he'd every match run , hit the ropes and do a flying cross body. So that night he didn't do it. To test Ric. He was getting same feedback and he asked how crossbody looked.

Flair waited and goes.."Great...up there with Steamboat.." Shane realized then Flair was playing him and he lost respect.

Some veterans like Flair let young guys down. But some won't and it's best to soak up knowledge.

Imagine talking all that shit about Meltzer only to turn around and try to use Konnan of all people as a trusted source.

[Immortal Weapon]

Like I said he could manage his son down in NXT if he wants without having to wait a year to do it. It's really more about the principle, when someone no longer works for you you shouldn't care what they do at their new job. No one finds it odd that Tony Khan immediately used Regal as an onscreen character as soon as he came in after his WWE release? Do you guys think Tony would've liked it if William told him he'd have to wait a year to be on tv because Vince McMahon added that stipulation to his contract? Tony's the same guy who was mad WWE tweeted a gif of Regal saying War Games the day of Survivor Series. Mad they used footage they owned now he's being petty for no reason.

I don't find it odd as the WWE likely didn't care. As long as they adhere to their no compete the WWE will not care. They are not threatened by AEW

[Immortal Weapon]

Rumors abound about Marc Mero being in the HoF next year. I can see it even though there are better names to chose from.

[krazijoe]

So basically Konnan called out some young talents who are rather playing video games than actually getting free help or classes from Bryan Danielson or Regal.

https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1136288...ing-from-vets/

Here is the thing...I don't mind talents playing video games. I love playing them myself. Yes they should be able to play them at times.

But if the American Dragon goes...hey let's hit the ring and go over some ring work...I'd think you would right ? You can always play games for sure. But having a veteran wanna spend time helping you is great.

Shane Douglas discussed this in a recent shoot about himself years ago when he came in. He was just a couple years out of camp. When he got to WCW in 1989 he idolized Flair.

Not wanting to be seen as a mark or anything bad...he walked up to Flair and told him he loved his work. That he knew he was busy and could understand if he couldn't do it. But he asked if he'd give him pointers if he watched his matches.

Flair put his arm on his shoulder and praised Douglas. That he'd be honored too. Then for weeks Shane got some generic feed back and he wondered...is he watching.

So he tested Flair with a spot where he'd every match run , hit the ropes and do a flying cross body. So that night he didn't do it. To test Ric. He was getting same feedback and he asked how crossbody looked.

Flair waited and goes.."Great...up there with Steamboat.." Shane realized then Flair was playing him and he lost respect.

Some veterans like Flair let young guys down. But some won't and it's best to soak up knowledge.

He's not wrong. If you are in the business and even mid to upper card, you should ALWAYS want to get better, whether it be on the mic, ring work, gimmick Whatever. And of one of the guys who is a AAA Talent wants to give you advice or work with you, then you turn into a sponge and soak it all it. Madden/CoD can wait...Your career can't.

[krazijoe]

Rumors abound about Marc Mero being in the HoF next year. I can see it even though there are better names to chose from.

I don't see it. No one should get in until Tenta and Bam Bam get in

[wjowski]

He's not wrong. If you are in the business and even mid to upper card, you should ALWAYS want to get better, whether it be on the mic, ring work, gimmick Whatever. And of one of the guys who is a AAA Talent wants to give you advice or work with you, then you turn into a sponge and soak it all it. Madden/CoD can wait...Your career can't.

And please enlighten me how that's Konnan's or anyone else business but the talent in question?

[krazijoe]

And please enlighten me how that's Konnan's or anyone else business but the talent in question?

I am not sure who posed the question to Konnan, but if you are in the business, you want the business to excel. I am not sure if Konnan is still in AEW or just paid appearances, BUT your brand is elevated by everyone elses brand. If you have a mid/upper talent dragging it down, it hurts everyone, plus you are a role model to the younger wrestlers and should set an example for your work and your craft.