"By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future – I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS – From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!
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Agreed, cause her creating or manifesting the x-gene doesn't really do the discovery of that power humanity wide the justice it deserves in my mind. Espiecally with how relatively contained WV setting is, within Westview. Even more so in relation to the Eternals movie having more a direct hand in laying done that mythology, in the form of Celestials. Can't usurp/spoil the reveal.
And she worked fine without mutants or Magneto, yet people still want to shove them on her, she always had her own stories without much input from X-side yet people try so desperately to tie her to it in MCU.
I wish people would use the same standard for Mutant/Magneto, etc.
Sure, Wanda can work without Agatha being her mentor, but it would still be a huge loss of her lore, a much bigger loss than whatever X-franchise offers her.
Also I don't care for popularity over authenticity, if Wanda got super popular by becoming a completely different character who is all about stuff like House of M, I would abandon the fandom immediately.
Yeah, though I would prefer they just use Modred or some version of him if they want a "gray character", his backstory actually plays nicely with Wanda's theme when it comes to "saving the loved one", of course Modred just kept getting tricked by Chthon and got fucked over.
Funny you mentioned it, a human/Eternal hybrid would be well, human.
The Eternal Ikaris had a son with the same name(technically the son had the name first, the father uses the name after the son's passing) who is just a mortal.
I would just say Agatha is a human sorceress who prolonged her lifespan with magic(and she still technically aged, though I think it's never stated she chooses to appear that way since she can appear completely different in some cases like in Darkhold, it's not clearly she can physically change into a younger body or she just use illusion or something.)
you might be right, but I think it's cooler if Wanda does it. Like she's the mother of all mutants, because if the eternals did it then where have the Mutants been all this time? Shouldn't Magneto, Xavier, Wolveirne, Apoc and others all be running around? What if Wanda used her powers to inadvertantly give birth to Mutant kind just like she did with Monica?
Or maybe Wanda flexes her powers and merges the dimensions
The J-man
I have heard this for months and a lot of back and forth, but I'm now thinking NO, or not in a major way.
Certainly her twins are mutants, though we currently do not know if they will be more like her original twins, or what Billy and Tommy were found to be later in the story line.
Of course I would be more or less delighted, but I've just come across a theory that suggests it will be Nightmare, whether or not it or he is working with anyone else - but this seems a natural lead to Dr. Strange 2.
And since 'multiverse', that is where it happens; mutants joining the MCU, or a retroactive treatment/reordering of it all?
But this WandaVision is obviously seeding it; it just will happen more after.
~ Oberon ~
Comic-book reading Witch and Pagan since 1970
I came for Kate, I stayed for Bette Love Fantastic Four, Namor, Batwoman, Dr.Strange.... i love them all
Exactly again, going forward with Wanda and Pietro never being mutants would mean not doing this. I agree with all this pretty much. I almost abandoned Marvel/fandom because of DA and HoM. Agatha is a crucial part of her comic lore, if you want to say she is a real Witch.
~ Oberon ~
Comic-book reading Witch and Pagan since 1970
I came for Kate, I stayed for Bette Love Fantastic Four, Namor, Batwoman, Dr.Strange.... i love them all
"To the X-men then, who don´t die the old fashioned way and no matter how hard we try, none of us die forever" Uncanny X-Men #270, Jean and Ororo
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