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    Quote Originally Posted by Probability010 View Post
    What did I wrote with regards to comics just a few days ago? Oh, right: “Anything that they are doing on the X-Men side with Wanda can burn in hell, as far as I am concerned”
    Pretty Much, the X-Offices and X-Fandom need to watch in pushing these buttons to much, otherwise if they keep circling the same wound over and over again even X-Fans like me that might have some hope for healing stories will ultimate give-up if respect and clarity of respect is not affored with outward baiting fan rages being more wanting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    right? Wanda is a real minority, not amade up. X-men came from a long way of bashing real minorities.

    Just wish Wanda was left alone
    Yea, when you stop to think who you are labeling it does end up looking gor for a minority mainly in a comic book world to be labeling a real minority with lables on hurtful levels that could be copying wrongs done in history and recent times, writers and books need to step back and consider the baiting they are doing and enraging fans to wrong point point of view thinking it is just inocent comic book flame waring.
    "By Earth and Sky, By Craft and Hex -- By The Past and The Future – I Call HOPE Forth From The DARKNESS! I Speak The Words We Made Into MAGIC! Let THEIR Power Augment Our OWN! To Strike ONE BLOW From Our HEARTS and SOULS – From ALL THAT WE ARE! Let The CALL Go Forth -- AVENGERS! ASSEMBLE!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff ~~ From Avengers #689!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenericUsername View Post
    It doesn't stereotype women. I think most people know exactly what it really means. Some, especially older people use it wrong to mean any woman they don't like or don't agree with or anyone with a messed up haircut. And it ruins the original message. Which was groups calling out white women on their behavior towards minority groups.
    The thing is bashing someone for their hairstyle is just more about judging women for their looks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rang10 View Post
    right? Wanda is a real minority, not amade up. X-men came from a long way of bashing real minorities.

    Just wish Wanda was left alone
    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyinthesky View Post
    I am bothered by the Wanda hate but I donīt think this counts a misoginy tbh.
    Idk if it's misogyny either. But she is an actual ethnic minority and a woman, both more actually oppressed than Cyclops

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    Cyclops doesnīt have anything to do with this, itīs the X-kids bad mounting her.

    I know newer readers think Cyclops is sort of an icon for X-men fans because marvel went hard trying to make him into THE X-MEN leader but the X-franchise has around 300 characters and all of them have fans, so believe when I say that Cyclops is criticized by part of the X-fandom just as wanda has been or even more after he cheated on Jean and Wanda has her own supporters over the X-fandom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyinthesky View Post
    Cyclops doesnīt have anything to do with this, itīs the X-kids bad mounting her.

    I know newer readers think Cyclops is sort of an icon for X-men fans because marvel went hard trying to make him into THE X-MEN leader but the X-franchise has around 300 charactes and all of them have fans, so believe when I say that Cyclops is criticized by part of the X-fandom just as wanda has been or even more after he cheated on Jean and Wanda has her own supporters over the X-fandom.
    Cyclops is just kind of a natural foil for Wanda, because being editorial's favorite and basically an author insert for so many writers kind of naturally puts him in opposition to Wanda who has been in editorial's doghouse for nearly the last two decades. Also in terms of characterization, Cyclops pretty much represents the ultimate fantasy of every neckbeard out there - he's awkward, insecure, and crippled by self-doubt, but yet somehow rather than turning him into a friendless psychopath like would happen to most people in his position, he somehow is this amazing leader and brilliant strategist who also happens to have every woman swooning over him and DEFINITELY would never get cucked by Wolverine, no sir. Contrast this with Wanda, who has always been depicted as the ultimate girly girl, which plays well against Cyclops' toxic masculinity.

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    Idk if Cyclops has more toxic masculinity than Wolverine, although that may have changed during the last few years

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    I think this is taking things too far Cyclops only got popular with editorial after Whedon actually made sense of how his social difficulties allow him to be a more focused leader which send some writers into centering the decimation era around him but right now heīs very far from being an editorial pet, JD White doesnīt really likes him, itīs easy to see on interviews and on this era he has been around but hardly has the same opportunity for storylines he got previously, heīs mostly been doing cameos.

    Wolverine is bassically marvel editorial pet since the moment the Fox movies centered the story around him and he honestly is well written on his title so I can see the appeal but he has never been my favorite and being written by so many writers at once can be a bad thing too, in the sense the characterīs actions contradict with each other all the time.

    I think Wandaīs real problem is the fact she has been reduced into a romantic interest or a possesed Woman on Avengers stories since HoM or in limbo, whatever Cyclops does or stops doing over the X-side doesnīt affect her possitively or negatively at all.
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    it's kinda insulting to Wanda considering her long history of being so much more

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    When I hear about how many house of m trades are being sold I can’t help but wonder about the total ineptitude of editorial in providing fresh reading material featuring wanda, they were too busy publishing the umpteenth king in black tie in and planning for aaron’s useless heroes reborn redux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mik View Post
    it's kinda insulting to Wanda considering her long history of being so much more

    Itīs thatīs also why I want to see character focused stories about her and please let her stay with Doctor Voodo or single for a while but maybe not being written by Aaron right now is a blessing in disguise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyinthesky View Post
    Itīs thatīs also why I want to see character focused stories about her and please let her stay with Doctor Voodo or single for a while.
    But why has the Avengers office been slow to fix her status?

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    I donīt have any idea, really, I know they planned Darkhold but thatīs all I have heard from her over the Avengers side. I donīt know whatīs happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daedra View Post
    When I hear about how many house of m trades are being sold I can’t help but wonder about the total ineptitude of editorial in providing fresh reading material featuring wanda, they were too busy publishing the umpteenth king in black tie in and planning for aaron’s useless heroes reborn redux
    I honestly love seeing Marvel getting caught with their pants down not being prepared for the Wanda Love Surge, despite all their efforts to paint Wanda negative!

    Heck even more of sweet justices is that what I hear is even the new fans that pic up and read HoM just end up loving Wanda it seems and sympathize with her, so no extensions of the Wanda hate the stories are giving them or other parts of the negative fandom over Wanda.

    These debates of those against Wanda is a splinter of how REALLY Fans feel about Wanda, it is love and respect for her and Now Marvel has to come to realize the public wants more Wanda in positive light!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucyinthesky View Post
    I donīt have any idea, really, I know they planned Darkhold but thatīs all I have heard from her over the Avengers side. I donīt know whatīs happening.
    That might not have thought it was not needed and moved on to other stories with her. Now Why they have not used her more is a guessing game, but after the success of WandaVision and the run on her material, Marvel and the Avengers offices must now start to think of using her more now to make $$$$$!
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