"HEX Be a Lady!" Scarlet Witch/Wanda Maximoff Appreciation 2021

[CosmiComic]

Or they could've just dropped the minority angle in the first place.

[Vegeta]

Yes and they did that for x-stories. Which was where Bendis would end up next.

But that wasn't until after his very hefty Avengers run though. And that ended with AvX which was sort of an attempted redemption of Wanda ("Make more mutants!") When he got to X-Men he really had nothing much of any value to say. (It all just builds to a group photo outside the Capitol.)

If anything Bendis threw Wanda under the bus to tell us more Spiderwoman, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones stories. Because that was really all that happened in Avengers until the movies started to take priority in the office.

[MaximoffTrash]

198 mutants out of 7 billion humans does not make a convincing minority

I said it's dumb, you won't get an argument from me because we will both agree it's dumb.
But that is the actual editorial reasoning.

[Drops Of Venus]

Don't you guys get tired of arguing about the same thing over and over again? LOL

My stance on all this is: I like Wanda as an Avenger and witch better. I don't mind if she's a mutant/daughter of Magneto, but I agree that this connection has proven to be very toxic and unhealthy for her in a lot of stories, so it shouldn't be at the center of the character. I don't mind if the retcon gets undone, but they shouldn't retcon her solo book. As for appearing in X-books; the X-Office can borrow her, but not own her.

Well, Wiccan’s currently more important than Wanda, that’s for sure

He currently appears more in comic books, but that doesn't necessarily translate to more importance overall, specially since comics are so niche. Wanda still has more appearances in media outside of comics, which tend to be more popular (games, animation, live-action). I'd argue WandaVision alone made Wanda a lot more important than Billy has ever been. He hasn't had that kinda breakthrough role yet.

[Will Evans]

What if when Wanda is reborn on Krakoa, she takes Franklin’s place as the 14th omega level mutant.

[gurkle]

I want the house of m angst dead and buried, I don’t care who uses her as long as she’s loved and respected, the strategy of isolation and detachment from her mutant root hasn’t worked at all and only led to her disappearance, so I’m convinced it is time to tackle the issue heads on, there needs to be full reconciliation with her mutant side otherwise she will never be free of this poisonous baggage.

I don't think the failure to use her has anything to do with the retcon or M-day baggage, just as the Avengers office could easily have used her after House of M and chose not to.

It's not the X-men editors' fault that the Avengers won't use her, but I have no reason to believe the X-Men books will give her any panel time, because they haven't during the "Pretender" nonsense.

If they'd had Wanda show up and react to the "Pretender" and the people who are demonizing her, and talked to the characters who are going to be suspects in this murder mystery... then i might look forward to this story.

But based on what we've had so far, this will have nothing to do with Wanda and won't lead to her getting used. If Hickman and co. wouldn't use her when she was alive, why would they use her now?

[GenericUsername]

But that wasn't until after his very hefty Avengers run though. And that ended with AvX which was sort of an attempted redemption of Wanda ("Make more mutants!") When he got to X-Men he really had nothing much of any value to say. (It all just builds to a group photo outside the Capitol.)

If anything Bendis threw Wanda under the bus to tell us more Spiderwoman, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones stories. Because that was really all that happened in Avengers until the movies started to take priority in the office.

No he threw most Avengers under the bus to have Heroes for Hire as Avengers.

Wanda was wrecked for the x-narrative. Where as AD hasn't been nearly as lasting. That was forgiven almost immediately.

[MaximoffTrash]

But that wasn't until after his very hefty Avengers run though. And that ended with AvX which was sort of an attempted redemption of Wanda ("Make more mutants!") When he got to X-Men he really had nothing much of any value to say. (It all just builds to a group photo outside the Capitol.)

If anything Bendis threw Wanda under the bus to tell us more Spiderwoman, Luke Cage and Jessica Jones stories. Because that was really all that happened in Avengers until the movies started to take priority in the office.

That I agree, Bendis took the opportunity to write his actual favs, and sometimes Avengers of course.
He created the condition for X-franchise extinction plot line rehashing, but he didn't really enforce it.

[Havok83]

We'll keep Wanda in the X-Office for as long as they hold the Phoenix hostage in the Avengers office. Anyone willing to trade?

[Daedra]

So is trying to spin Wanda's X-franchise experience as some kind of divine blessing.
In both cases Wanda's drama breeds narrative for X-franchise, that is for sure, whether X-fans like it or not is another totally different issue.

I don’t claim to have a crystal ball, I can only hope for a better future, I will keep wishing something better for Wanda and for inclusion, because the technique used so far has only excluded her from everything.

[Will Evans]

Don't you guys get tired of arguing about the same thing over and over again? LOL

My instance on all this is: I like Wanda as an Avenger and witch better. I don't mind if she's a mutant/daughter of Magneto, but I agree that this connection has proven to be very toxic and unhealthy for her in a lot of stories, so it shouldn't be at the center of the character/ I don't mind if the retcon gets undone, but they shouldn't retcon her solo book. As for appearing in X-books; the X-Office can borrow her, but not own her.



He currently appears more in comic books, but that doesn't necessarily translate to more importance overall, specially since comics are so niche. Wanda still has more appearances in media outside of comics, which tend to be more popular (games, animation, live-action). I'd argue WandaVision alone made Wanda a lot more important than Billy has ever been. He hasn't had that kinda breakthrough role yet.

I mean importance within universe.
Billy’s currently the husband of the Kree/Skrull Emperor.

[MaximoffTrash]

What if when Wanda is reborn on Krakoa, she takes Franklin’s place as the 14th omega level mutant.

Who cares, pointless title.

[GenericUsername]

What if when Wanda is reborn on Krakoa, she takes Franklin’s place as the 14th omega level mutant.

How about no!

[MaximoffTrash]

Don't you guys get tired of arguing about the same thing over and over again? LOL

My instance on all this is: I like Wanda as an Avenger and witch better. I don't mind if she's a mutant/daughter of Magneto, but I agree that this connection has proven to be very toxic and unhealthy for her in a lot of stories, so it shouldn't be at the center of the character. I don't mind if the retcon gets undone, but they shouldn't retcon her solo book. As for appearing in X-books; the X-Office can borrow her, but not own her.



He currently appears more in comic books, but that doesn't necessarily translate to more importance overall, specially since comics are so niche. Wanda still has more appearances in media outside of comics, which tend to be more popular (games, animation, live-action). I'd argue WandaVision alone made Wanda a lot more important than Billy has ever been. He hasn't had that kinda breakthrough role yet.

What else should we do?
Arguing about her eye color instead?
Seriously though, are her eyes green in X-Factor?

[Daedra]

What if when Wanda is reborn on Krakoa, she takes Franklin’s place as the 14th omega level mutant.

I would love that very much, it’s not a secret at this point.