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Spiderfan001
Thanks, but Wanda wants family, and it's pretty understandable w/ loosing her parents, brother, bf, etc.
I don't see a single superhero in that list?Did I miss something?
That's... what I said.Very likely it's fake as all leaks, just that we've had all credible leakers(in comparison to others) say it's true when usually not all of them jump in a single train.One or 2, like maybe Grace say they haven't heard or sommething.
"outdated tropes"
Tropes are by definition :- a significant or recurrent theme
Outdate is :- out of date
If a trope hasn't been used isn't common, specially in the Genre we are talking about here.Then the "it happens a lot" isn't a viable thing, because it doesn't.
What other Superhero has used this trope, I asked you for examples but you didn't give any.....
"Isn't those rumors exactly what people think of female characters that are mothers?"
No, people think that because
1)Her town stint, as in she didn't put a stop to it once she realized what's going on.[Not blaming her btw, I sure a lot of us would do the same thing as well]
2)Using the Darkhold, not exactly reassuring of the character being in a good state of mind
3)Hearing the Kids voice, which by her expressions seems like she found something she wants.
I don't see female mother being the reason, the literally set up her going to take her kids back.And we've already seen she's willing to pay costs that means harming other people.And the Darkhold being in play makes it a bit more cemented.And the films nature as being horror doesn't help, on top of the fact multiverse will be explored and it's good chance Wanda will either do it/ or take advantage to get her kids.
"It's okay to shove outdated misogynistic trope on Wanda which they wouldn't apply to other female character", you saying it doesn't happen to other female characters are exactly what I am talking about."
What?what mentality?No casual fan is even seeing this as a trope, and I've already explained why it's not much of a trope specially for superhero's.Unless you can give examples that is
Characters have diff. struggles, not everyone will have struggles we feel they should get.
" it's lonely dudes' self-projection lol, I find men in general to be way more anxious/insecure about starting a family and have kids and shit"
Ngl, Sounds like a you problem.
Also why would lonely dudes push this as a plot point, we've seen Wanda wants her kids back, and they set this up in the post-credits that it's involving the darkhold and the multiverse.Seems even if it's fake, it's based on her characterization and things set up rather than someone's personal bias.
"But somehow it's okay to do it to Wanda specifically, imagine everyone being treated like modern day citizens in democratic countries and you are the only one who somehow is going to be treated like a peasant under a dictatorship monarchy lol."
What?
Widow was given away, kidnapped, tortured, made infertile(which also seems to be a trope) by the red room.You can say the same for her but no one is complaining.No one else in the MCU dealt w/ all this, why target her.
Carol deals w/ memory loss, a trope if I've ever seen one.No one complains why she's being targeted.
Because it's not targeted, diff. character go through diff. struggles that fall into tropes(some used more than others).No one is targeting Wanda, that's how the filmmakers have set her arc up.....
I remotely get what you are getting to "a outdated trope you don't like and feel is harmful(I agree it is) is being used on your fav".But using that as a basis to invalidate this direction makes no sense because casual audiences see it as a sympathetic motivation and not a trope because it's rarely if ever been used in recent films specially in the superhero Genre.Not to mention Marvel has set all this up and it feels consistent w/ what we have seen her do and her motivations.
I get you think it's a bad thing to apply,I feel the same.But that's the way her story has been built.She has enough loss behind her, and her charecterization shows that she would take risks for the kids.I don't think she's going crazy unless darkhold, just that she will take risks involving others to get what she wants.
I would be against this if they just threw this on her from like her first/second apperance, but they have done a good job of building it up IMO.