Ororo Munroe: Storm/Hadari Yao Appreciation 2021

[Subliminally]

"I am not a goddess Candra...."

It's not her fault Xavier decided to rip her away from her birthright to play hero. In my head canon she would have sent him all the way back to New York on a Jetstream. #bai

[Subliminally]

yassssss! I literally just had a debate with someone who tried to argue storm was always a goddess in the xbooks. no honey they made an effort to show that she wasn't.


the power of coates!

How many books, writers, scans, is it going to take to finally get people convinced? Is Gaea herself going to need to bow down before people GET. IT. ?

[Devaishwarya]

I don't know why many people didn't notice this more. Storm killed 2 birds with one stone! She was black and a woman with the added bonus that her white hair and usual lightning flare made her almost impossible to miss in terms of marketing. Yet, she never did anything at all.

Well...It's not as though...
1: The X-Offices and Marvel, weren't under really poor management throughout the 90s-00's...Storm wasn't the only character they neglected.
2: Storm isn't the be-all and end-all of the X-Men/X-Offices (despite what Claremont thinks). They do have ALL the other mutants to write.
3: Other writers...Whedon, Fraction, etc had/have their pet characters who they preferred to write. No biggie. It happens.
4: Some writers just don't care about Storm...the way some don't care about Jean, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Lorna or any mutant not in their story.

So Storm wasn't the "face" of Mutants after Claremont left...So what...?
Did her fans all stop reading the X-Men? No.
Did sales suddenly decline to cancellation levels? Not immediately and for different reasons.
Did the quality of the writing deteriorate? Yes. But that's entirely on the writers not the characters.
Fact is, despite her absence in the X-books while she was off being Queen of Wakanda...those eras (Fracktion, Whedon, Morisson) are beloved and lauded.

[butterflykyss]

How many books, writers, scans, is it going to take to finally get people convinced? Is Gaea herself going to need to bow down before people GET. IT. ?

I think they were trying to invalidate what coates had done by mentioning she was always a goddess. they were making the case being in BP didn't help the character.

[Subliminally]

Well...It's not as though...
1: The X-Offices and Marvel, weren't under really poor management throughout the 90s-00's...Storm wasn't the only character they neglected.
2: Storm isn't the be-all and end-all of the X-Men/X-Offices (despite what Claremont thinks). They do have ALL the other mutants to write.
3: Other writers...Whedon, Fraction, etc had/have their pet characters who they preferred to write. No biggie. It happens.
4: Some writers just don't care about Storm...the way some don't care about Jean, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Lorna or any mutant not in their story.

So Storm wasn't the "face" of Mutants after Claremont left...So what...?
Did her fans all stop reading the X-Men? No.
Did sales suddenly decline to cancellation levels? Not immediately and for different reasons.
Did the quality of the writing deteriorate? Yes. But that's entirely on the writers not the characters.
Fact is, despite her absence in the X-books while she was off being Queen of Wakanda...those eras (Fracktion, Whedon, Morisson) are beloved and lauded.

What are you even going on about? I was agreeing with Storm being a token for the X-books.

[Subliminally]

I think they were trying to invalidate what coates had done by mentioning she was always a goddess. they were making the case being in BP didn't help the character.

I guess if that helps them sleep better at night?

[butterflykyss]

I guess if that helps them sleep better at night?

exactly they are reaching because they don't like the pairing. but its silly to blame hudljn for her decline in the xbooks. that resided with the xoffices

[Devaishwarya]

What are you even going on about? I was agreeing with Storm being a token for the X-books.

I was just pointing out that the tokenism theory is only a very small part of the issue.
I didn't miss Storm in the X-books because I was reading her in Black Panther...and if nothing else no one can say Hudlin treated her as a token character. Every story may not have revolved around her but to expect that was foolish because it's not her book.

[LordAllMIghty]

exactly they are reaching because they don't like the pairing. but its silly to blame hudljn for her decline in the xbooks. that resided with the xoffices

Her decline in the X-Franchise to me, started with Lobdell. Hudlin tried to lift her out of the mediocrity of the X-Universe (with hit or miss stories).

[butterflykyss]

Her decline in the X-Franchise to me, started with Lobdell. Hudlin tried to lift her out of the mediocrity of the X-Universe

yes!!!!!!!!!!!! honey you are absolutely correct. the shift from Claremont to Lobdell was glaringly obvious. why do some storm fans not see this and try to pin it on hudlin?

[LordAllMIghty]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!! honey you are absolutely correct. the shift from Claremont to Lobdell was glaringly obvious. why do some storm fans not see this and try to pin it on hudlin?

This is when I knew Lobdell was about to start some bullshit and move Storm a back-up singer.
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[Devaishwarya]

Exactatiously.

Post Claremont...the X-Offices just were not interested in her, regardless of how "important" Claremont had made her up until his departure.

[dirtynun]

What are you even going on about? I was agreeing with Storm being a token for the X-books.

You took the words right out of my mouth I was reading post and going HUH?!

[Devaishwarya]

Maybe if some of us could see past the conspiracy theories and look at the bigger picture...

[dirtynun]

maybe if some of us could see past the conspiracy theories and look at the bigger picture...

.........k!