Ororo Munroe: Storm/Hadari Yao Appreciation 2021

[Stormultt Divine]

Reading through the thread all i have to say is she deserves what was intended at the beginning. To be the most powerful woman in comics, that was her original purpose and i wanna see it. I cant pinpoint the interview but one of them writers (claremont or somebody else) expressed that weather was only a piece of the puzzle when it came to Storms powers. Lets open that box up.

[dirtynun]

I like this description and I also agree with the difference and why Storm would be the ultimate weather manipulator. I will say though I don't get why everyone has a hard time saying Storm is more powerful than Thor when it comes to the weather lol. It all feels a bit sexist lol.

It makes me think about the Phoenix Saga. Claremont originally wanted Phoenix to fight Thor or the Silver Surfer and win, but Shooter was having no parts of it.
"When asked why Shooter wanted to get rid of Phoenix, her original visual designer, Dave Cockrum, responded that “Shooter hated strong female characters. When we first introduced Phoenix, we wanted her to fight Thor or the Silver Surfer, but Shooter wouldn’t allow it. He said no female is going to beat Thor or the Silver Surfer” (91). Cockrum notes that in order to subvert Shooter’s mandate Phoenix did, however, win a battle against Firelord, a former herald of Galactus and a character who had previously beaten both Thor and the Silver Surfer."

The reason this quote is important to me was because Jean was powered up to be Phoenix in part to be able to rival/equal Storm's power levels. If Claremont believed that Phoenix could beat Thor or the Silver Surfer, then it isn't a stretch to believe they felt Storm was more powerful than both either. But I do believe with Storm not only being a woman, but a black woman, we have to always find ways to diminish her power levels and significance. I mean given the definition of Omega Mutant now and her listed as an Omega Weather Manipulator why are we arguing lol.

Finally, Storm has the ability to manipulate natural forces to create weather phenomena. That's insanely powerful as you can put Storm in any medium and she literally takes the raw elements of that place to create weather. So technically, she is like a supreme energy manipulator. Thor can make Storms of immense power but he cannot come close to reproducing this versatility and connection as far as we know. Also, if she ever delves into her magic potential, she could possibly even manipulate any storm Thor produces (which is about her potential). This is why I believe she is Omega, because who knows to what extent this Energy manipulation/weather manifestation could go. Look at what she did when she was infected with the virus. That wasn't (imo) a small feat.

Hit the nail ok the head! Also there is an article from 1976 that states that storm is more powerful than thor as he simply creates a storm but storm controls every detail of the storm. The truth we have a lot of sexist people in comic fandom who though they won't admit it don't like to see women overtake men this is made worst when the woman is a woman of colour. Storm is the most powerful weather manipulator yes Thor has created some insane weather but if he even brings a universe ending storm what is preventing storm from controlling it. Remember when storm met silver surfer she told him that he is outmatched
And that he should concede storm in charachter doesn't joke especially in battle. She said what she said and meant it. Plus she taking down stardust proved she can take down heralds. And heralds are constantly shown to be above Thor's paygrade.
Also the giant size one shot machine storm feat shows how far her power can go. I gush over this feat soo much because it is simple and straight to the point and debunks the whole storm need only atmosphere related elements to create weather. Just wish the xoffice will just keep getting creative rather than have her shoot lightning 99.999% of the time.

[butterflykyss]

yes that is correct in 1976 Woweekazowie did an article where it was presented she was possibly more powerful than thor. why people see it differently today is simply thor has never been boxed in when it comes to his powers while most xwriters were trying to do the complete opposite with storm. that is until Coates came along.

Wow...this question would require some research as that is a big chunk of time and many stories have been told since then. I would say though since the restoration by Coates there is a seemingly more collective effort to put Storm in her rightful place and most writers have been respectful in their depictions of her even if it has been limited in my opinion. Since Coates she's done a lot of heavy hitting and been called out as THE ONE by many in the presence of other powerhouses so it's a start. But honestly, I can't necessarily think of a story off the top of my head because there hasn't really been many Storm centric stories outside of her short lived solo and XMen Gold... (no need to talk about this). Her solo was fine but it still didn't feel epic enough for her character and her power even though she had some amazing power feats. It probably would have evolved into that had it not been canceled.

Claremont's Storm is the standard and every iteration he has written of her that I can think of has been the bomb, even the XMEN Forever Perfect Storm. Outside of that, perhaps my favorite Storm story is Yost's World's Apart. Again, I'm going off of memory but that's the first thing that comes to mind and that was way before the annulment.

thanks for this. I just would like to put it out there if characters like Spiderman and Wolverine can be featured in books outside their main offices and it not diminish them in any way, I don't see how that would be the case with storm appearing in BP. the onus is on the xwriters to develop her, while any other stories should be supplemental. I think it was harder to point out any substantive storm stories because the xwriters were not doing anything with her frankly until Coates took an interest in her.

[dirtynun]

yes that is correct in 1976 Woweekazowie did an article where it was presented she was possibly more powerful than thor. why people see it differently today is simply thor has never been boxed in when it comes to his powers while most xwriters were trying to do the complete opposite with storm. that is until Coates came along.

Thor doesn't get limited when it comes to his powers because he is usually on solo adventures when with the avengers he gets a significant power decrease though not to the extent of storm. But this is negligible since the avengers fight galaxy level threats ever two to three business days. Storm is the opposite she gets limited because her power on the team makes the rest redundant. Like aside warp reality and the some other few stuff what can't she do when you take in the true scope of her powers. Even an x-writer stated that storm is sooo powerful they find it difficult to challenge her in battle. So the only other option is to nerf her to oblivion. Earlier on when I said she can manipulate magnetic fields directly and has temperature manipulation as part of her powerset, I was trying to make the point that with her on the team magneto, iceman, pyro are all redundant. But that's the thing she is built to stand alone.

thanks for this. I just would like to put it out there if characters like Spiderman and Wolverine can be featured in books outside their main offices and it not diminish them in any way, I don't see how that would be the case with storm appearing in BP. the onus is on the xwriters to develop her, while any other stories should be supplemental. I think it was harder to point out any substantive storm stories because the xwriters were not doing anything with her frankly until Coates took an interest in her.

The problem is spiderman and wolverine are always going to have solos regardless they have great development there and can afford to make appearances anywhere that does t diminish their profile. Maybe not Logan anymore people are slowly getting tired of him. But storm gets lucklaster attention from the xoffice and anything in black panther is seen as extensions. If the foundation is weak the more you build the likely the house will collapse.

[Idiopop]

just wanted to highlight this because the magnitude of Storm’s power is really insane.




Being able to manipulate Cosmic Winds is no joke! That galactic core feat is heavily underrated outside of Storm’s fanon community and we need to be bringing that up more because I never see it being talked about in Storm’s powerset by X-Office, youtube videos, or vs battles enough. There are still people who think her powers don’t work in space because it’s not “weather” that is one the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. So her mutation and energy sight is just supposed to turn off just because she leaves a planetary atmosphere? Hell No!. She’s OMEGA LEVEL. As I said before Storm’s power emanates from her, she doesn’t need any source to power her up. She sees and feels the elements of nature as patterns of force and energy that are hers to command. She’s already shown she can manipulate cosmic winds which are made up of plasma. Well guess what? 99.9% of the observable universe is made up plasma, which means she can manipulate the universe. Her feats on earth are just a small speck of her true power. He target doesn’t need to be within her line of sight either as we have seen she has struck down a ship thousands of miles a way by perceiving it the atmosphere. I also really love this scan. It really explains how her powers are more than merely planetary.



Did yall see that. It said “empty space” because even in the void of space there is energy. There’s something called dark energy which isn’t observable to the humans but it apparently makes up 80% of the universe. Storm can see that and who knows what she can do with it. I also noticed the word “Panorama” and that was a very interesting and specific word to use. Panorama means an unbroken view of the entire region surrounding the viewer. She can literally see in all directions like a sphere. So whether you’re behind her back! Or on the other side of the universe. You cannot hide!. There’s so much potential for her powerset it’s uncanny.

The Trion feat is also legendary for Storm. It showed that her powers work in ANY natural environment. Not just our dimension or physical universe. She is a Goddess and she has been from the beginning as this article states. I never wanna hear anybody say Storm is just a mid tier or high tier character. She’s cosmic PERIODT.

[dirtynun]

just wanted to highlight this because the magnitude of Storm’s power is really insane.




Being able to to manipulate Cosmic Winds is no joke! That galactic core feat is heavily underrated outside of Storm’s fanon community and we need to be bringing that up more because I never see it being talked about in Storm’s powerset by X-Office, youtube videos, or vs battles enough. There are still people who think her powers don’t work in space because it’s not “weather” that is one the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. So her mutation and energy sight is just supposed to turn off just because she leaves a planetary atmosphere? Hell No!. She’s OMEGA LEVEL. As I said before Storm’s power emanates from her, she doesn’t need any source to power her up. She sees and feels the elements of nature as patterns of force and energy that are hers to command. She’s already shown she can manipulate cosmic winds which are made up of plasma. Well guess what? 99.9% of the universe is made up plasma. Which means she can manipulate the universe.It doesn’t need to be within her line of sight either as we have seen she has struck down a ship thousands of miles a way by perceiving it the atmosphere. I also really love this scan. It really explains how her powers are more than merely planetary.



Did yall see that. It said “empty space” because even in the void of space there is energy. There’s something called dark energy which isn’t observable to the humans but it apparently makes up 80% of the universe. Storm can see that and who knows what she can do with it. There’s so much potential for her powerset it’s uncanny.

The Trion feat is also legendary for Storm. It showed that her powers work in ANY natural environment. Not just our dimension or physical universe. She is a Goddess and she has been from the beginning as this article states. I never wanna hear anybody say Storm is just a mid tier or high tier character. She’s cosmic PERIODT.

Yh the empty space solid planets and bright stars all become patterns of force and energy which she can control. All are primal forces she controls. I think maybe we have been too preoccupied with the atmosphere we seem to forget sometimes storm manipulates all mediums not just atmospheres. Because as it is stated even solid planets become patterns of force and energy which she controls.

[BlkGldBlu]

I also love how it states the stars brighten as she lashes out with her power.

[dirtynun]

just wanted to highlight this because the magnitude of Storm’s power is really insane.




Being able to manipulate Cosmic Winds is no joke! That galactic core feat is heavily underrated outside of Storm’s fanon community and we need to be bringing that up more because I never see it being talked about in Storm’s powerset by X-Office, youtube videos, or vs battles enough. There are still people who think her powers don’t work in space because it’s not “weather” that is one the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. So her mutation and energy sight is just supposed to turn off just because she leaves a planetary atmosphere? Hell No!. She’s OMEGA LEVEL. As I said before Storm’s power emanates from her, she doesn’t need any source to power her up. She sees and feels the elements of nature as patterns of force and energy that are hers to command. She’s already shown she can manipulate cosmic winds which are made up of plasma. Well guess what? 99.9% of the observable universe is made up plasma, which means she can manipulate the universe. Her feats on earth are just a small speck of her true power. He target doesn’t need to be within her line of sight either as we have seen she has struck down a ship thousands of miles a way by perceiving it the atmosphere. I also really love this scan. It really explains how her powers are more than merely planetary.



Did yall see that. It said “empty space” because even in the void of space there is energy. There’s something called dark energy which isn’t observable to the humans but it apparently makes up 80% of the universe. Storm can see that and who knows what she can do with it. I also noticed the word “Panorama” and that was a very interesting and specific word to use. Panorama means an unbroken view of the entire region surrounding the viewer. She can literally see in all directions like a sphere. So whether you’re behind her back! Or on the other side of the universe. You cannot hide!. There’s so much potential for her powerset it’s uncanny.

The Trion feat is also legendary for Storm. It showed that her powers work in ANY natural environment. Not just our dimension or physical universe. She is a Goddess and she has been from the beginning as this article states. I never wanna hear anybody say Storm is just a mid tier or high tier character. She’s cosmic PERIODT.

I just read your statement about dark energy and if that is part of storms purview then I think the whole discussion about weather Thor even holds a candle to storm becomes redundant. Because like you stated dark matter and energy consist of 95% of the universe and have a very strong effect on time and space itself. It is also the mysterious force expanding the universe. To control such force is literally insane.
But now we know that storms power allows her to perceive forces and energy that pertain to weather and manipulate them to her will if storm can see this energy as her perception changes then she can control it. This will make her even more crazy of a powerhouse than we can even concieve
Also she sends a blast just as powerful if not more powerful than the one binary delt towards her.

[butterflykyss]

Thor doesn't get limited when it comes to his powers because he is usually on solo adventures when with the avengers he gets a significant power decrease though not to the extent of storm. But this is negligible since the avengers fight galaxy level threats ever two to three business days. Storm is the opposite she gets limited because her power on the team makes the rest redundant. Like aside warp reality and the some other few stuff what can't she do when you take in the true scope of her powers. Even an x-writer stated that storm is sooo powerful they find it difficult to challenge her in battle. So the only other option is to nerf her to oblivion. Earlier on when I said she can manipulate magnetic fields directly and has temperature manipulation as part of her powerset, I was trying to make the point that with her on the team magneto, iceman, pyro are all redundant. But that's the thing she is built to stand alone.



The problem is spiderman and wolverine are always going to have solos regardless they have great development there and can afford to make appearances anywhere that does t diminish their profile. Maybe not Logan anymore people are slowly getting tired of him. But storm gets lucklaster attention from the xoffice and anything in black panther is seen as extensions. If the foundation is weak the more you build the likely the house will collapse.

all of this is fair but it should be applied to storm too. she's an a-list character that is rarely given the alist treatment. that should stop.

[Idiopop]

all of this is fair but it should be applied to storm too. she's an a-list character that is rarely given the alist treatment. that should stop.

Agreed, there’s no reason for a main character who has been around since 1975 and has one of the most appearances of all characters to be treated like a side piece. I mean only THREE solo runs?! Come on, it’s ridiculous.

[butterflykyss]

just wanted to highlight this because the magnitude of Storm’s power is really insane.




Being able to manipulate Cosmic Winds is no joke! That galactic core feat is heavily underrated outside of Storm’s fanon community and we need to be bringing that up more because I never see it being talked about in Storm’s powerset by X-Office, youtube videos, or vs battles enough. There are still people who think her powers don’t work in space because it’s not “weather” that is one the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. So her mutation and energy sight is just supposed to turn off just because she leaves a planetary atmosphere? Hell No!. She’s OMEGA LEVEL. As I said before Storm’s power emanates from her, she doesn’t need any source to power her up. She sees and feels the elements of nature as patterns of force and energy that are hers to command. She’s already shown she can manipulate cosmic winds which are made up of plasma. Well guess what? 99.9% of the observable universe is made up plasma, which means she can manipulate the universe. Her feats on earth are just a small speck of her true power. He target doesn’t need to be within her line of sight either as we have seen she has struck down a ship thousands of miles a way by perceiving it the atmosphere. I also really love this scan. It really explains how her powers are more than merely planetary.



Did yall see that. It said “empty space” because even in the void of space there is energy. There’s something called dark energy which isn’t observable to the humans but it apparently makes up 80% of the universe. Storm can see that and who knows what she can do with it. I also noticed the word “Panorama” and that was a very interesting and specific word to use. Panorama means an unbroken view of the entire region surrounding the viewer. She can literally see in all directions like a sphere. So whether you’re behind her back! Or on the other side of the universe. You cannot hide!. There’s so much potential for her powerset it’s uncanny.

The Trion feat is also legendary for Storm. It showed that her powers work in ANY natural environment. Not just our dimension or physical universe. She is a Goddess and she has been from the beginning as this article states. I never wanna hear anybody say Storm is just a mid tier or high tier character. She’s cosmic PERIODT.

I always love your insightful posts. you definitely bringing the facts and knowledge my friend!

[butterflykyss]

Agreed, there’s no reason for a main character who has been around since 1975 and has one of the most appearances of all characters to be treated like a side piece. I mean only THREE solo runs?! Come on, it’s ridiculous.

it most certainly is ridiculous. imagine if the xoffices were pushing storm like the avengers side have been pushing captain marvel.

[dirtynun]

all of this is fair but it should be applied to storm too. she's an a-list character that is rarely given the alist treatment. that should stop.

Relegating their most prominent female hero to the back ground who is also a woman of colour to give rise to c and d listers is something I won't ever understand

[butterflykyss]

Relegating their most prominent female hero to the back ground who is also a woman of colour to give rise to c and d listers is something I won't ever understand

I sincerely don't either. beyond that it doesn't appear storm will be featured in any xbooks in August either.

[dirtynun]

Well now I know not to care for an entire month.