Ororo Munroe: Storm/Hadari Yao Appreciation 2021

[HeraldOfStorm]

5 months ago a hater made a Thread with just bad moments / Storm nerfs. lol, how far these haters go, against a character who is a symbol for black women, it makes me very sad.

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this is comic vine, people on this site think Storm would lose fights against Electro, Mera, Human Torch, Thing, Mysterio and etc... they think Storm is weak at that point.
they created an antipathy for Storm cuz a few years ago she was very wanked by three or four "fans" who said that she could beat people like Odin, Galactus, Thanos and etc... and for that reason some of those people used several times where Storm was the victim of bad writing and used it to attack her, they literally think because once Storm got hit with a cake in the face she is slow and couldn't react to anything if an opponent throws something against her lol.

if you think he hates Storm it's because you haven't seen his comments about Scarlet Witch lol.

[Spiderfan001]

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[Spiderfan001]

5 months ago a hater made a Thread with just bad moments / Storm nerfs. lol, how far these haters go, against a character who is a symbol for black women, it makes me very sad.

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It's a meme post because people on like 3-4 fans on Comicvine believe she can solo Odin and Galactus level beings.It's funny when you see the post wankers made.
He made one for Scarlet witch as well, It was hilarious.
We also have debunk threads that go into great details from things like Hellbat and the Insider suit, we have one comparing Iron man to Spider-man saying if he is fodder or not.

On comicvine, a lot of us CAV which is detailed debating between 2 user on a match up.That's why things that are wanked like Hellbat, Storm, etc. get threads like these.This is a joke thing btw, the ones for Hellbat, Insider, etc. are serious.

this is comic vine, people on this site think Storm would lose fights against Electro, Mera, Human Torch, Thing, Mysterio and etc... they think Storm is weak at that point.
they created an antipathy for Storm cuz a few years ago she was very wanked by three or four "fans" who said that she could beat people like Odin, Galactus, Thanos and etc... and for that reason some of those people used several times where Storm was the victim of bad writing and used it to attack her, they literally think because once Storm got hit with a cake in the face she is slow and couldn't react to anything if an opponent throws something against her lol.

if you think he hates Storm it's because you haven't seen his comments about Scarlet Witch lol.

Pretty sure that Mysterio thing is a joke, w/ prep people joke he could take Ultron+Thanos.It's just a meme thing.


Btw the guy who made it has made like 50/75+ respect threads on some big but mostly smaller character, he knows what he's doing.His Krakoa respect thread is on point IIRC

[HeraldOfStorm]

It's a meme post because people on like 3-4 fans on Comicvine believe she can solo Odin and Galactus level beings.It's funny when you see the post wankers made.
He made one for Scarlet witch as well, It was hilarious.
We also have debunk threads that go into great details from things like Hellbat and the Insider suit, we have one comparing Iron man to Spider-man saying if he is fodder or not.

On comicvine, a lot of us CAV which is detailed debating between 2 user on a match up.That's why things that are wanked like Hellbat, Storm, etc. get threads like these.This is a joke thing btw, the ones for Hellbat, Insider, etc. are serious.



Pretty sure that Mysterio thing is a joke, w/ prep people joke he could take Ultron+Thanos.It's just a meme thing.


Btw the guy who made it has made like 50/75+ respect threads on some big but mostly smaller character, he knows what he's doing.His Krakoa respect thread is on point IIRC

I know who he is since I've had debates with him, pretty much I was sure he wasn't joking about mysterio when he was literally making a case for MCU mysterio to beat 616 Storm. and it's not something that comes down to just one user on that site.

[Spiderfan001]

I know who he is since I've had debates with him, pretty much I was sure he wasn't joking about mysterio when he was literally making a case for MCU mysterio to beat 616 Storm. and it's not something that comes down to just one user on that site.

I'm talking about someone else, not the one who made the thread.

Did you debate Mysterio vs storm? Because I'd like to see that, or any debates/CAV's you did either way.Love reading them, and have started doing them myself.

Mysterio does have some crazy feats, recently he fooled the entire superhero community w/ an aline invasion which only Spider-man figured out.People like Iron man, Old man logan, Thor, Luke Cage, Iron fist, Captain America, Hawkeye were all present but I'm not making a case for either.Mysterio needs a lot of prep for all that, one on one fight are different.

[dirtynun]

I need you to bring it down a notch right there cause Blacks aren't the only ones with broad noses. There are Asians, Pacific Islanders, Samoans and plenty of other races with broad noses and full lips and there ain't nothing wrong with it so let's stop trying to put these features only on Blacks as if it's a bad thing. The artist is just horrible and we've seen Storm drawn with a broad nose and full lips beautifully. Not all Blacks have and neither should they have pointy candlestick noses to look good.

Exactly!
Like what makes what this artist did even worse is that he drew her literally on the same page as stunning with those specific features in one panel and the next panel well we get her looking like she is dabling into shapeshifting.

Also who said the artist was racist? We simply called the inconsistency and the atrocity which is the art on those panels.

[HeraldOfStorm]

I'm talking about someone else, not the one who made the thread.

Did you debate Mysterio vs storm? Because I'd like to see that, or any debates/CAV's you did either way.Love reading them, and have started doing them myself.

Mysterio does have some crazy feats, recently he fooled the entire superhero community w/ an aline invasion which only Spider-man figured out.People like Iron man, Old man logan, Thor, Luke Cage, Iron fist, Captain America, Hawkeye were all present but I'm not making a case for either.Mysterio needs a lot of prep for all that, one on one fight are different.

it wasn't a CaV, it was just a normal battle thread that I saw and went to defend Storm: MCU Mysterio vs 616 Storm. I didn't debate in CaV because I just used my phone it was much more work to gather scans and make long posts, most of the time I accidentally ended up deleting my posts or even couldn't post because of the Token error.

[Amazona dos ventos]

It's a meme post because people on like 3-4 fans on Comicvine believe she can solo Odin and Galactus level beings.It's funny when you see the post wankers made.
He made one for Scarlet witch as well, It was hilarious.
We also have debunk threads that go into great details from things like Hellbat and the Insider suit, we have one comparing Iron man to Spider-man saying if he is fodder or not.

On comicvine, a lot of us CAV which is detailed debating between 2 user on a match up.That's why things that are wanked like Hellbat, Storm, etc. get threads like these.This is a joke thing btw, the ones for Hellbat, Insider, etc. are serious.



Pretty sure that Mysterio thing is a joke, w/ prep people joke he could take Ultron+Thanos.It's just a meme thing.


Btw the guy who made it has made like 50/75+ respect threads on some big but mostly smaller character, he knows what he's doing.His Krakoa respect thread is on point IIRC

what is the link to the topic made for wanda?

[dirtynun]

5 months ago a hater made a Thread with just bad moments / Storm nerfs. lol, how far these haters go, against a character who is a symbol for black women, it makes me very sad.

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Hmmmmmm that's why potraying storm is very sensitive in all aspects .... I am in the camp that if you can't do it well just don't do it at all art and everything included.
Potraying her as depowered and getting into knife fights just to prove herself, a trope which she the only black krakoan mutant has to go through again and again just gives these haters ammunition against her.



Like the hell one was a Wooow moment for me... He literally takes her power away for plot respond just so she can hit demons on the head with a mace, meanwhile bobby gets to freeze half of hell in seconds, guess which one is more remembered and revered. And to top it all of THEY COULD BREATHE!!! there was air but she couldn't use her powers because no weather? Like please fix it Jesus.

[Thirteen]

In What If... Storm as a phoenix, Would it have been the white phoenix? Despite not having mentioned anything about it, she was dressed in white and gold, the classic white phoenix costume….
There is the question

White Phoenix of the Crown would not be a cohesive concept until the Morrison run decades later. However Cockrum may have intended the original design to have been white. White wasn't used as a main color of a costume often because of the paper and printing process of the times.
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[Spiderfan001]

it wasn't a CaV, it was just a normal battle thread that I saw and went to defend Storm: MCU Mysterio vs 616 Storm. I didn't debate in CaV because I just used my phone it was much more work to gather scans and make long posts, most of the time I accidentally ended up deleting my posts or even couldn't post because of the Token error.

Yeah, they fixed the Token thing but you can't really CAV from Phones.I'll still try to find the thread.

what is the link to the topic made for wanda?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...hread-2074878/

[Wind Rider]

@thread - I definitely donÂ’t think the artist was racist. Some panels he just didnÂ’t draw well& some of the inking and coloring also contributed to a not do great look. But some panels were amazing. The opening, the knofe throw, her besting Calderak, and most of her post fight looked good imho.

5 months ago a hater made a Thread with just bad moments / Storm nerfs. lol, how far these haters go, against a character who is a symbol for black women, it makes me very sad.

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Yeah that site has really fallen. And there is no excuse for it really, but I feel many posters come off as trolling racists who want to create flame wars with Storm fans there. Even w/ characters she has defeated on panel (i.e. Polaris, Cyclops, Emma) or when credible arguments are made of how she could win against characters she hasnÂ’t fought they make it a point to collaboratively attack both the character and the user (most of whom dod not wank on her). One mod there shared with me that a single user had more than alternate accounts (something they used to ban people for) to go to different forums (including Storms) to goad fans who like the site into heated confrontations just to get them banned. There is so much Storm hate that it is ridiculous and IÂ’ve not seen it on this level for any other character (some who also get wanked just as hard). There is also even a tumblr page someone made to discredit her capabilities in combat. They use out of context, non-canon, and every bad moment to make her look weak.

When called out a lot of them claim it was because of fan wanking so they hated Storm lol (which did happen mainly w/ 1 -2 people and a couple who were kust naive/inexperienced debaters) but that person hasnÂ’t been on these boards for several years and people still go out of their way to undermine Storm. The same inexperienced debaters of other characters donÂ’t get any where near the level of flack Storm fans get. I rately debate there since it is pointless and you donÂ’t get an intelligent open-minded exchange like back in the day.

[Wind Rider]

Like the hell one was a Wooow moment for me... He literally takes her power away for plot respond just so she can hit demons on the head with a mace, meanwhile bobby gets to freeze half of hell in seconds, guess which one is more remembered and revered. And to top it all of THEY COULD BREATHE!!! there was air but she couldn't use her powers because no weather? Like please fix it Jesus.

That writer just didn’t get Storm (also wrote the BP Skrull Invasion issue where she was told not to use her powers when it didn’t make sense for her not to) and wanted to focus on her other talents. I enjoyed some of those moments for the intentional highlight but the execution was not done well. I don’t mind focusing on Storm’s skills, strength of will, etc, but it does need to make sense. I felt like Ewing did a great job and sets a good example of how to focus on these aspects of Storm but not take away from story or the characters to do it.

[Idiopop]

Found Short little scientific video that shows how Storm’s power work and how she perceive air currents as energy.

[Spiderfan001]

@thread - I definitely donÂ’t think the artist was racist. Some panels he just didnÂ’t draw well& some of the inking and coloring also contributed to a not do great look. But some panels were amazing. The opening, the knofe throw, her besting Calderak, and most of her post fight looked good imho.



Yeah that site has really fallen. And there is no excuse for it really, but I feel many posters come off as trolling racists who want to create flame wars with Storm fans there. Even w/ characters she has defeated on panel (i.e. Polaris, Cyclops, Emma) or when credible arguments are made of how she could win against characters she hasnÂ’t fought they make it a point to collaboratively attack both the character and the user (most of whom dod not wank on her). One mod there shared with me that a single user had more than alternate accounts (something they used to ban people for) to go to different forums (including Storms) to goad fans who like the site into heated confrontations just to get them banned. There is so much Storm hate that it is ridiculous and IÂ’ve not seen it on this level for any other character (some who also get wanked just as hard). There is also even a tumblr page someone made to discredit her capabilities in combat. They use out of context, non-canon, and every bad moment to make her look weak.

When called out a lot of them claim it was because of fan wanking so they hated Storm lol (which did happen mainly w/ 1 -2 people and a couple who were kust naive/inexperienced debaters) but that person hasnÂ’t been on these boards for several years and people still go out of their way to undermine Storm. The same inexperienced debaters of other characters donÂ’t get any where near the level of flack Storm fans get. I rately debate there since it is pointless and you donÂ’t get an intelligent open-minded exchange like back in the day.

Would you CAV for Storm against me using say Spider-man w/ 2 months prep?
Haven't seen a storm matchup in a while and CAV's w/ her aren't common since it's people who claim she's solo's galactus or people who undermine her.