Stephen Strange: Doctor Strange Appreciation 2021

[Daedra]

Never said it should we were talking about when Strange cast spells invoking the names of these dark lords or Dimensions like Cytorrak, Vishanti, Cinnibus and whatnot

those are not hell lords , and they want to be invoked because the very action extends their power and influence, no need to steal

[MadFacedKid]

those are not hell lords , and they want to be invoked because the very action extends their power and influence, no need to steal

Aw ok I didn’t know that, appreciate the info.

[Daedra]

Aw ok I didn’t know that, appreciate the info.

no problem fellow poster, this link http://www.marvunapp.com/ohotmu/appendixes/magapp.htm was posted earlier. it is very exhaustive

[MaximoffTrash]

Are those from Marvel Tarot?
Anyway it feels right that more neutral entities would lend strength without having too much of a fuzz. Though I am genuinely curious if they can restrict a specific person from using their power should said mortal pisses them off. Cyttorak did take back Cain Marko's Juggernaut power once, don't know if it can apply to spells as well.

[Daedra]

Are those from Marvel Tarot?
Anyway it feels right that more neutral entities would lend strength without having too much of a fuzz. Though I am genuinely curious if they can restrict a specific person from using their power should said mortal pisses them off. Cyttorak did take back Cain Marko's Juggernaut power once, don't know if it can apply to spells as well.

They can and they did during the war of the seven spheres, to be more precise Stephen had to invoke an emancipation law to cut himself off from their power https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/War_of_the_Seven_Spheres

[Eto]

that's Claremont's run:
first picture Doctor Strange 45 v1
second picture Doctor Strange 42 v1

also check this is out (this was mentioned by Clea):

strange tales 151

Yet again, Thanks!
Hah, that's so awesome
Can't wait to binge read Strange Tales.

[Albert1981]

Very true, writing about magic users and Doctor Strange in particular interacting with the rest of the marvel universe requires the presence of a skilled writer, I don’t see why this should be regarded as an issue, writers are supposed to be skilled and the money we spend on these comics is not cheap either, good stories dont get written with a “lets trow shit at the wall attitude...” and this is why for instance I don’t buy Avengers comics anymore at the moment.

Well, we FINALLY agreed on something besides Wanda's costume. That's two out of a thousand!

[Albert1981]

I love Strange and the other Marvel magic users so I'm delighted to see him/them become more popular with new fans. I want fans to love the magic users because that means Marvel will have a vested interest in writing new stories for these characters. But, I don't want Marvel to turn Strange into magical Tony Stark just to appeal to fans. At a fundamental level, Strange needs to be the exact opposite if Marvel wants to maintain any real continuity with what it means to be Sorcerer Supreme vs. other magic users. As Sorcerer Supreme, his main core strength is his mental discipline and clarity, so he's not going to go out carousing and drinking. He'd be more likely to turn a beer into tea, not turn tea into beer because he needs to stay alert and keep his mind clear at all times. Having him revert to his pre-magic playboy lifestyle also undercuts what it means to be the Sorcerer Supreme vs. other magic users. He sacrificed all of that to become earth's defender against forces that are constantly probing for the slightest crack in earth's defense. The self-sacrificing aspect of being Sorcerer Supreme is something that Strange wrestled with constantly. Even when he allowed himself to have a steady love partner in his life, he even kept them at arm's length emotionally because he viewed even that to be a potential vulnerability. That's one reason why I think Clea is better off without him. He was brilliant and sarcastic in his pre-Sorcerer Supreme days and he remains brilliant and sarcastic now, but he's also tempered himself and thinking about much more than just how to land a quippy zinger on somebody.

Marvel has many skilled writers who could portray Strange well now in a way that would be consistent with his back cannon and established personality and still mix him in with the Avengers and other non-magical characters. I just don't know if Marvel wants to do this, or if they're happier turning him into magical Tony Stark. Time will tell.

Yeah, when I read about Strange and watched him on television way back in the prehistoric era, he was a very disciplined and dedicated student as well as master of the mystic arts. It consumed him and though it cost him a lot physically and emotionally, you could tell he derived a great deal of satisfaction from his work. And it made him into a more honorable and noble person too. I LIKE that version. But I do think he was a bit too serious for my tastes. Quippy Strange appeals to me because I could feel I could actually talk to him if he existed in real life. I would probably be more intimidated by him if he maintained his previous persona. I do think Strange is now a magical version of Stark. And that definitely is GAINING him a LOT of popularity. That's a plus in my opinion. But I get why older Strange fans would say it's for the WRONG reasons.

[Daedra]

Well, we FINALLY agreed on something besides Wanda's costume. That's two out of a thousand!

we are both here talking about magic and a fictional character, I'm sure we have more in common than we actually suspect.

[Albert1981]

we are both here talking about magic and a fictional character, I'm sure we have more in common than we actually suspect.

I reckon you're probably right about that!

[Clea]

Yeah, when I read about Strange and watched him on television way back in the prehistoric era, he was a very disciplined and dedicated student as well as master of the mystic arts. It consumed him and though it cost him a lot physically and emotionally, you could tell he derived a great deal of satisfaction from his work. And it made him into a more honorable and noble person too. I LIKE that version. But I do think he was a bit too serious for my tastes. Quippy Strange appeals to me because I could feel I could actually talk to him if he existed in real life. I would probably be more intimidated by him if he maintained his previous persona. I do think Strange is now a magical version of Stark. And that definitely is GAINING him a LOT of popularity. That's a plus in my opinion. But I get why older Strange fans would say it's for the WRONG reasons.

Since you like your sorcerers to be quippy, perhaps you may also enjoy Clea's sly sense of humor.

[GenericUsername]

I love Clea. I hope she's in the new movie. That would make me so happy!

[Phoenixx9]

I love Clea. I hope she's in the new movie. That would make me so happy!

Yes, me too!

I love Clea's classic hair and costume. They could do a few minor tweeks, but I want to recognize her instantly and I want her to have good scenes showing her power.

[Albert1981]

Since you like your sorcerers to be quippy, perhaps you may also enjoy Clea's sly sense of humor.

It's nice to know Clea didn't take herself too seriously way back in the day either. If Clea shows up in the MCU, I REALLY hope she's just as quippy as Strange is! And I don't just like my sorcerers and witches to be quippy. I like my raccoons, scientifically-enhanced humans, androids and gods to be quippy too.

[Phoenixx9]

It's nice to know Clea didn't take herself too seriously way back in the day either. If Clea shows up in the MCU, I REALLY hope she's just as quippy as Strange is!

Yes, Clea has a fun and funny streak that comes out from time to time.