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    At the very least, Scott's beams need to be portrayed more powerful than they usually are.

    They were upgraded before, but they seem somewhat useless these days.
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    Just throwing it out there, but Cyke's arc will most likely culminate in him walking away from the class-redefining power upgrade and choosing to (literally) keep both feet on the ground.

    I mean, sure, maybe he'll get a "+x% Accuracy/Critical Chance/Damage/" Passive ability, but that's about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ra-El View Post
    Hell Yeah!

    Holden is Cyclops, you're right on this. If/When they bring Cyclops to the MCU the way they use Holden on The Expanse is exactly the way I want them to use Cyclops.
    Exactly what I was thinking, Holden is a strong leader but impulsive and problematic at the same time, I think he’d be a perfect Cyclops…

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    I made this post some time ago on reddit:
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    Either a power boost or a new power or both.

    He is one of the very few characters in Marvel and DC who's powers have remained basically the same since the beginning. Hell if anything, he has gotten nerfed.

    Many Cyclops fans would say that he doesn't need any power up and is just as good as he is. As a huge Cyclops fan myself, I disagree.

    I'd have been ok if not for literally almost everyone else in X-Men getting power-ups after power-ups. Just look at his original team. Iceman went from throwing snowballs and making some ice structures to an omega level mutant who's basically immortal. Angel went Archangel and got much more powerful wings and physique. Beast got countless transformations. Jean... where to even start with this? She only had telekinesis in the beginning, then she got telepathy, then they got stronger and stronger, then she got the Phoenix, even the time-displaced younger Jean(don't ask) got some kind of pink coloured powers that made her much more powerful.

    You may think that its a bad argument that just because others are getting something Cyclops should get it too. Or that power creep is bad and its a good that Cyclops hasn't been the victim of that yet. And I would have agreed if not for ALMOST EVERYONE getting power-ups. At a certain point, a character needs to be more powerful even if there's the dreaded power creep on the horizon because as it is, the character is just weak(ahem Piccolo).

    But this isn't the only reason Cyclops needs a power-up. The other reason is the nature of his powers. They're very restrictive and one-dimensional. That kind of superpower needs to be absurdly strong or its meaningless. I mean, seriously. Rogue probably has better destructive feats than Cyclops. Like, when was the last time Cyclops blasted something that was supposed to be really tough? Has he ever done that? Because he needs to.

    What makes Flash stand out in the Justice League even though Superman is there? Because writers understood that seeing the Flash only has superspeed, he needed to be better at it than Superman.(then they added a lot of powers that are "because Speed Force!", but I digress)

    And it's not just Flash. Green Arrow and Hawkeye are absurd inhuman levels of marksmen because that's the only thing they have. Captain America's shield is more durable than almost everything in the entire Marvel universe because apart from that he's just a "peak human". Batman's intellect and martial arts skills are superior to almost everyone in the whole DC universe because he doesn't have any powers.

    Cyclops needs to get in that category. Or he needs some other powers to make him more versatile. Powers play a big part in making a superhero interesting. It's not everything, but it does play a bigger part than most people think imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AROSWELL View Post
    I agree with both your and the other guy's statement. And to be frank, after seeing some of the greatest feats he accomplished using his beams alone, I somewhat think that his full potential might be equivalent to that of a Death Star Super Laser or greater. But the thing is, his powers being concussive is for the best. Also, instead of giving him a suit that can manipulate his powers and utilize them in various ways. The problem is, the time is too late as the Post AvX, Revolutionary Cyclops without the visor would be a perfect fit. His two main powers are solar and other ambient energy absorption and metabolization and the other being the ability to shoot concussive red energy beams from the Punch Dimension. As for his spatial awareness, analytical mind and absolute psychic defense are from years of training, fighting, and growing as a superhero. Thus, with the earlier two powers prioritized, the Post AvX arc where he lead a cult-like extreme movement is the perfect situation.
    During this part of his life, Scott's powers are more broken as are bending and changing directions on their own. To add more insult to the injury, he cannot control them and once he released all his powers at once, he will be drained physically and mentally by a great deal. Here, we confirm the two factors that contribute to his powers and they are his stamina and willpower/concentration. As his body processes and metabolizes solar energy, it was later converted into his stamina. But since this process is similar to Superman, he needs more solar and ambient energy to gain superhuman physiology with enhanced senses. As he honed everyone of his senses to their peak due to him having to be practically blind at certain times such as whenever he lost his glasses/visor, I believe he should be granted a suit that allows him to absorb more energy, possibly on the same level as his brothers who are capable of absorbing energy on an active level.
    On the other hand, there is another possibility. Since his blasts are based on the principles of concussive force, which is a variation of Kinetic Energy, what needs to be given is a suit that can direct and redirect energy to any part of the body. Now that the arcing blast is actually a force that is more than what was supposed to be released, I believe that by diverting the excess amount of energy and using them as a fuel source and as blasts from other parts of the body, Scott can simulate a Nova like performance. Coupling with a radar in his mask along with features that allow him to levitate, cloak, argument his physique and do other functions, his powers could be used efficiently. Furthermore, since the excessive power is being diverted, Scott's eye beams might be on the same level as before, but with the ability to change their trajectory, Scott's potential would be limitless. By the way, when I first saw his black and red suit and later his burgundy suit, I expected the second scenario to be true, as his status as an earthbound Nova-like character would make him more interesting.
    Agree as well, because he seems to be a conduit for either solar or some other extra dimensional energy.His powers could definitely be upgraded in very interesting ways ,but the writers just stick to one formula.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiderClops View Post
    I made this post some time ago on reddit:
    https://www.reddit.com/r/CharacterRa...tent=post_body

    Either a power boost or a new power or both.

    He is one of the very few characters in Marvel and DC who's powers have remained basically the same since the beginning. Hell if anything, he has gotten nerfed.

    Many Cyclops fans would say that he doesn't need any power up and is just as good as he is. As a huge Cyclops fan myself, I disagree.

    I'd have been ok if not for literally almost everyone else in X-Men getting power-ups after power-ups. Just look at his original team. Iceman went from throwing snowballs and making some ice structures to an omega level mutant who's basically immortal. Angel went Archangel and got much more powerful wings and physique. Beast got countless transformations. Jean... where to even start with this? She only had telekinesis in the beginning, then she got telepathy, then they got stronger and stronger, then she got the Phoenix, even the time-displaced younger Jean(don't ask) got some kind of pink coloured powers that made her much more powerful.

    You may think that its a bad argument that just because others are getting something Cyclops should get it too. Or that power creep is bad and its a good that Cyclops hasn't been the victim of that yet. And I would have agreed if not for ALMOST EVERYONE getting power-ups. At a certain point, a character needs to be more powerful even if there's the dreaded power creep on the horizon because as it is, the character is just weak(ahem Piccolo).

    But this isn't the only reason Cyclops needs a power-up. The other reason is the nature of his powers. They're very restrictive and one-dimensional. That kind of superpower needs to be absurdly strong or its meaningless. I mean, seriously. Rogue probably has better destructive feats than Cyclops. Like, when was the last time Cyclops blasted something that was supposed to be really tough? Has he ever done that? Because he needs to.

    What makes Flash stand out in the Justice League even though Superman is there? Because writers understood that seeing the Flash only has superspeed, he needed to be better at it than Superman.(then they added a lot of powers that are "because Speed Force!", but I digress)

    And it's not just Flash. Green Arrow and Hawkeye are absurd inhuman levels of marksmen because that's the only thing they have. Captain America's shield is more durable than almost everything in the entire Marvel universe because apart from that he's just a "peak human". Batman's intellect and martial arts skills are superior to almost everyone in the whole DC universe because he doesn't have any powers.

    Cyclops needs to get in that category. Or he needs some other powers to make him more versatile. Powers play a big part in making a superhero interesting. It's not everything, but it does play a bigger part than most people think imo.
    They should just rip off Darkseid's Omega Sanction. It's a simple solution, that would ad something new to the character without radically changing him. For a time I thought it was where Bendis was going, with the way his powers looked at the time, but at the end it went nowhere.

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    Cyclops is my absolute favorite hero but ironically, there hasn't been a costume he wore that I truly liked.

    If I could change at least one part, it'd be the head gear. Make it helmet of some sort. I really like this image below. Or at least lose the head gear all together. It looks like a condom without addition details


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    This is my favorite costume to date, but they probably will make it an actual helmet in the MCU…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godzilla2099 View Post
    Cyclops is my absolute favorite hero but ironically, there hasn't been a costume he wore that I truly liked.

    If I could change at least one part, it'd be the head gear. Make it helmet of some sort. I really like this image below. Or at least lose the head gear all together. It looks like a condom without addition details
    If Cyke went for any sort of helmet, he'd have to update the rest of the suit and armor up accordingly. Think Captain Krakoa (I just had to, lol) but with saner colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCyclopsRLZ View Post
    If Cyke went for any sort of helmet, he'd have to update the rest of the suit and armor up accordingly. Think Captain Krakoa (I just had to, lol) but with saner colors.
    I don't think that'd be completely necessary. Maybe add additional textures to show Kevlar or lighter armor. Although his primary specialty is ranged attacks, Cyclops needs to and does move pretty fast in combat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishopsJuice91 View Post
    This is my favorite costume to date, but they probably will make it an actual helmet in the MCU…

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    For the most dedicated collectors, this was released. Three different portraits. Two Arm Switch Outs What do you all think of this one?






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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffyCyclopsRLZ View Post
    If Cyke went for any sort of helmet, he'd have to update the rest of the suit and armor up accordingly. Think Captain Krakoa (I just had to, lol) but with saner colors.
    I would like to see Cyclops using something like the Mnemonic Visor from Mass Effect 3:


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    Quote Originally Posted by BishopsJuice91 View Post
    This is my favorite costume to date, but they probably will make it an actual helmet in the MCU…

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    This, Bendis era Redclops, or current Krakoan Cyclops are my favorite outfits
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vordan View Post
    This, Bendis era Redclops, or current Krakoan Cyclops are my favorite outfits
    In the books headgear 100 percent but once I think about it, it won’t make it to live action. 1 his most famous look is without it and the actor will want as much of his face uncovered…

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