I think it's one of those things that you have to keep out the reader's mind to allow full immersion. Don't remind us that he has friends and allies who could solve any problem he has in 5 minutes. If we don't see them at least we can pretend they're busy with their own problems, having them show up like that will make us question why isn't that an option for future events. Also it isn't just dating characters with powers even human heroes will essentially tip the scale in the protagonist favor the writer has to essentially come up with a believable challenge that would be hard for both of them.
DC: Dick Grayson, Wally West, Donna Troy, Yara Flor, Titans
Some of my favorite Mangas: One Piece, Slam Dunk, Fullmetal Alchemist, HunterXHunter, Vinland Saga, Monster, Berserk, Vagabond.
Current reading: Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, Spy X Family, Kaiju Nș8, Blue Lock, Dandadan.
How is it nonsensical? These guys weren't busy when Babs called them in to help Dick. Next time he's in trouble and they don't come running, we can safely assume they *are* busy.
You know what *is* nonsensical? The fact that the League doesn't take a weekend, sweep through Gotham, and throw every corrupt cop, politician, and villain into space jail.
Comics don't make any sense. But this scene doesn't even break the internal logic of the DCU; if we call this out then we gotta also call out everything else.
Last edited by Ascended; 07-17-2021 at 12:31 PM.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
The scene makes 2 points. There are other characters that care about Dick, and Oracle can call in the cavalry.
No. Make them show up. I was marketed by DC that this is a shared universe, so actually make them shared universe. Do show up when the character's not busy fighting their own problem, and do help, and don't make local character be stupid or prideful that they refuse help. Actually solve the problem. Be the hero that the city and the victims need.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Feel the same. I get the idea behind having the heroes show up to "save" Dick, even if he should be able to get out of something like this by himself, but it isn't something that can happen in the actual story because these super power characters can defeat anyone in Bludhaven in 2 seconds. So Taylor introduces something he will immediately have to write around or ignore going forward. Situations like this are more suited to Justice League, Titans, or non street level stories. It's like when Alfred was captured in Gotham recently. Realistically Flash or Superman could have busted in and saved him before Bane or Thomas Wane could even react, but King had to come up with excuses why they didn't and ignore them.
I'd much rather see Dick have more personal moments with the other heroes. Him and Donna going out to dinner or something. Try and build back up what their relationship was like before Flashpoint. I don't think Dick has even had one real conversation between himself, Raven, Beast Boy, or Cyborg on any kind of personal level since the New 52 started. Him and Wally still haven't interacted I think since Abnett's first Titans run. In Seeley's Nightwing run you had moments where he was in his apartment talking to a Wally or Roy on the phone and stuff. Give me a lot more moments and scenes like that beyond it just being Dick and Babs in those kind of scenes.
Dick, Kori, and Vic all had some time to talk during the Justice League Death Metal tie-in's. It was nice. Not nearly enough, but nice. And I think Dick got to talk to some of the Titans towards the end of the main Death Metal series, though I didn't read that.
Anyway, I mostly agree with you. It's good to see these guys have Dick's back but it's no substitute for actual character interaction. Still an improvement over what we've been getting, but a damn small one. I like it, but I want more.
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
DC: Dick Grayson, Wally West, Donna Troy, Yara Flor, Titans
Some of my favorite Mangas: One Piece, Slam Dunk, Fullmetal Alchemist, HunterXHunter, Vinland Saga, Monster, Berserk, Vagabond.
Current reading: Jujutsu Kaisen, Chainsaw Man, Spy X Family, Kaiju Nș8, Blue Lock, Dandadan.