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Words to live by.
We got the cover out. Generally by how they got this laid out. This might be a comic cover that shows you a bigger image
Im torn. This doesn't particularly sound like a lot of new tread, yet at the same time i complain that Nightwing has no mythology cause creators just ditch whatever the previous creators did. So on one hand its Bludhaven, Zucco, Blockbuster, but on the other they are trying to use and build upon what mythology he has like it or not. Guess its just going to come down to execution for me. Also it is coming after a time where they threw everything away and had him cry to his readers about how lame he was, yet did nothing better. And given the reception of that i get the logic of now going the other way.
And as to Al leavening him his fortune. To be fair last time he saw him he was living on the streets.
This book doesn't even need words. Even with that ugly suit Nicola Scott just know how to make him look cool.
Last edited by Godlike13; 01-15-2021 at 03:19 PM.
Yeah, I think I agree.
But really it's foolish as hell for us to act like we know more than we do about this book. For all we know, the first few issues take place in Bludhaven and the next arc kicks off a whirlwind adventure around the globe. This title could be more like Percy's motorcycle death race issues than a Bat-worshiping, poor imitation of Dixon. Or it could be more like DCeased, or whatever the hell. Let's not act like this book can only possibly be this one thing simply because it's kicking off with some classic elements of Dick's modern history.
And given that this is a reset and the "real" return of Nightwing (I write off the end of Jurgens' run as Ric epilogue) we probably should have expected the rebuilding to involve these things. They're modern staples.
And what's the worst case scenario? The book *is* Bat-lite? It'll still be well written Bat-lite, and right now I'll take a good Nightwing story that's a little "basic bitch" over a brave and controversial story that sucks.
As far as worst case scenarios go, I feel like we're in a much better position than we were six months ago when cancellation seemed a realistic "worst case."
"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
I know what you mean. As I was discussing in private chat a while ago, the whole concept reads as "meh," but it also has the feel of a reset switch in a basement room in Burbank getting firmly thrown. One wonders if Taylor wasn't brought in with the brief that due to the cascade of problems over the last few years, Nightwing as it was is pretty much a total write-off and he needs to start from basics and build the property up slowly and methodically. Bludhaven, Batgirl, Zucco, and Blockbuster are about as basic as you can get without going back to Haly's Circus and pixie boots. Maybe the model they are looking at is Johns and Van Sciver in Green Lantern, which proved that an IP/character that had been mishandled to the point of destruction could be successfully rebuilt using very classic components. I prefer the Grayson approach myself, but what can we say? It just wasn't viable by the company's standards. At the very least, the new team deserves a chance to show what they can do. After all, when Grayson was first proposed a lot of people were despondent to the point of physical illness. Remember the uproar that followed that first poster of Dick with a gun?
With regard to Alfred's fortune, that isn't hard to swallow. After all, the man worked extremely closely with billionaires for at least four decades. He must have picked up some useful investment tips along with the Christmas bonus of Wayne Enterprises stock. We also don't know the conditions under which it was left to Dick. Knowing Alfred, he may well have willed it to Master Grayson for a very specific purpose. Maybe he wanted Dick to take care of the rest of the family, for after all Alfred of all people was familiar with Bruce's obsessions and shortcomings. Maybe he wanted Dick to use the money to explore a different way of fighting crime than just wearing a mask and punching heads. Maybe Alfred's money, rather than Bruce's, is what supports Titans Academy. I am sure Alfred's fortune and it's use will be a major plot thread going forward, which is at least one new element of Nightwing's story.
I get that some are frustrated because this isn't the approach to Dick's solo you'd prefer, and your opinions are valid, but let's try and reserve judgment until the first issue is out. Unless you're one of the people huranging Tom Taylor on Twitter, then you can go sit in the naughty corner.
I'm repeating what I said before that when you relaunch you need to start at the most familiar place as possible, even if it's not a new number one, because they're losing old fans by the Ric nonsense, they need to say "we're back, Nightwing's back in a place you know". That means it's either Gotham or Bludhaven and you can't build an A list Nightwing based in Gotham because Batman's there, so Bludhaven it is.
Reading List (Super behind but reading them nonetheless):
DC: Currently figuring that out
Marvel: Read above
Image: Killadelphia, Nightmare Blog
Other: The Antagonist, Something is Killing the Children, Avatar: TLAB
Manga: My Hero Academia, MHA: Vigilanties, Soul Eater: the Perfect Edition, Berserk, Hunter X Hunter, Witch Hat Atelier, Kaiju No. 8
I don't mind that Blockbuster is back as long as they use the Rebirth interpretation. The classic one has run its course. I wasn't a fan when Jurgens brought that version back in the annual. The cover makes me think they are keeping "Vegas Blüd", so I guess that's a good sign. Alfred's fortune being used for the TT Academy would be cool, but I think it's more likely that the money will be used in NW.
And about the cover... Dixon Motors is pretty self-explanatory as are others (McDaniel's Burgers, Injustice, Mayor). Legends are probably Wolfman and Perez. Channel 4 is Ron Burgundy. The explosion in Badhnesia Sea is from Taylor & Redondo's Suicide Squad. That Inc. there might be too, but I can't remember.
Story museum could be a nod to "everything is canon"?
Heartless might be a new villain?
Any idea what "Drexel Foundation", "Heads on Ice" and "Shark Finn" might reference/mean?