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    Quote Originally Posted by Digifiend View Post
    Cass does now seem to be the primary Batgirl. Babs appears mainly as Oracle, and Cass's other name Orphan hasn't been used, except for one presumable caption mistake in Future State, since she went back to her original costume.

    Jon's promotion just means there's multiple Supermen instead of multiple Superboys, as Clark's still Superman too.
    babs is getting a batgirl movie, is batgirl in the popular harley show, the animated movies both direct to video and big budget animated Lego batman ,the massive DCSHg and the WB Games.

    Babs is The Batgirl.

    Sharing mantles is fine the problem is that WB's official face of that brand will get more content leading to discontent.

    They should treat them like GL where they are all THE official .... add legacy

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    Cass has always had that problem. Even in the 2000s, when she was Batgirl originally, it was still Babs (who hadn't been Batgirl since the 80s in the comics) who was used in the cartoons. Tim has that problem too - the Robin in Teen Titans 2003 and Teen Titans Go is actually Dick, despite having the bo staff that Tim is famous for in the comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Light of Justice View Post
    There are multiple Batgirls, Batmans even Supermans (I think? CMIIW) I guess we can expect multiple Robin on future issues. I heard that Robin Issues 5 will have all Robins so maybe they will make the annoyingly vague status clear on there.
    Based on costume and story theme, it will be ironic if Damian will be the one called "Red Robin".
    Even better Damian should take over the Drake identity.

    There are many Robins currently, Damian, Jarro and Maps however Tim isn't Robin or back as Batman's sidekick. No that role went to Harley

    The real reason for tim back in the costume is far more interesting and compelling


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    He's helping Bruce who is pulling the old' hire an actor to make my stubborn sidekick/ Son/ partner who quit come back'. otherwise known as the Steph.

    That's what their unseen chat in YJ was about.

    Bruce has been feeling really bad for sending Damian to Gotham and everything that followed. he gets that his holiday and bad plan has left Damian angry, Alfredless and traumatised. Damian quit more than Robin. he quit Bruce.

    Bruce tried to get him back but got punched. This more Robin. Bruce wants his youngest son back to save him from having to relive that neck snapped over and over and over in every adaption that features Alfred and or Damian or Bane.

    So he reached out to the one person who that can help. the only one that had plenty of free time. the only one with a Robin costume that still fits. The person who has been dropping hints since Selina left Bruce with no one to chat with on Patrol.

    So bruce reached out to Tim. Who honestly is tailor made for this mission. Damian and Tim have issues [insecurity on both sides] So he is the perfect replacement to rile Damian. He likes to take things away from other Robins esp Tim [remember that black leather Jacket with the yellow strips he wore in Streets of Gotham and LiL Gotham? That was stolen from Tim ]

    Tim is determined to expose Damian for the imposter he is. Damian afterall has Al Ghul DnA, tried to kill Tim and keeps stealing things that belong to Tim.

    Tim's hoping the plan doesn't work but is he just had to help. Batman must have a Robin.

    Other Bat titles even tie in.

    The Panel from Nightwing with baby Robin Tim is actually Psycho pirate making the others think it's the 90's when Tim was younger and Robin. Tim wasn't dissing Damian or being inconsiderate talking like that in front of Bruce who can count and knows everyone's not there.

    It's all part of the mission. The others can also count but this is before Talia dropped by with their new brother so they don't know that there's a Damian.

    Jason being shorter and sporting a Nightwing logo = more evidence that their perception is PP manipulation.

    More evidence for manipulation is the fact that character refer to Tim by different codenames

    Following some family members calling out Bruce in Alfred RIp and claims that Bruce ain't **** at familying without Alfred. Bruce being the prideful type was forced to bring in PP rather than have the others find out that days after Alfred's funeral he's already misplaced the one kid still living under his roof.

    Gosh that got lengthy. I got carried away.

    Anyway that's why Tim is back as robin
    end of spoilers.

    In my head canon anyway.
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    To think Tim doesn't want Damian to return is a misunderstanding of the character in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPSparkles View Post
    Even better Damian should take over the Drake identity.

    There are many Robins currently, Damian, Jarro and Maps however Tim isn't Robin or back as Batman's sidekick. No that role went to Harley

    The real reason for tim back in the costume is far more interesting and compelling


    spoilers:
    He's helping Bruce who is pulling the old' hire an actor to make my stubborn sidekick/ Son/ partner who quit come back'. otherwise known as the Steph.

    That's what their unseen chat in YJ was about.

    Bruce has been feeling really bad for sending Damian to Gotham and everything that followed. he gets that his holiday and bad plan has left Damian angry, Alfredless and traumatised. Damian quit more than Robin. he quit Bruce.

    Bruce tried to get him back but got punched. This more Robin. Bruce wants his youngest son back to save him from having to relive that neck snapped over and over and over in every adaption that features Alfred and or Damian or Bane.

    So he reached out to the one person who that can help. the only one that had plenty of free time. the only one with a Robin costume that still fits. The person who has been dropping hints since Selina left Bruce with no one to chat with on Patrol.

    So bruce reached out to Tim. Who honestly is tailor made for this mission. Damian and Tim have issues [insecurity on both sides] So he is the perfect replacement to rile Damian. He likes to take things away from other Robins esp Tim [remember that black leather Jacket with the yellow strips he wore in Streets of Gotham and LiL Gotham? That was stolen from Tim ]

    Tim is determined to expose Damian for the imposter he is. Damian afterall has Al Ghul DnA, tried to kill Tim and keeps stealing things that belong to Tim.

    Tim's hoping the plan doesn't work but is he just had to help. Batman must have a Robin.

    Other Bat titles even tie in.

    The Panel from Nightwing with baby Robin Tim is actually Psycho pirate making the others think it's the 90's when Tim was younger and Robin. Tim wasn't dissing Damian or being inconsiderate talking like that in front of Bruce who can count and knows everyone's not there.

    It's all part of the mission. The others can also count but this is before Talia dropped by with their new brother so they don't know that there's a Damian.

    Jason being shorter and sporting a Nightwing logo = more evidence that their perception is PP manipulation.

    More evidence for manipulation is the fact that character refer to Tim by different codenames

    Following some family members calling out Bruce in Alfred RIp and claims that Bruce ain't **** at familying without Alfred. Bruce being the prideful type was forced to bring in PP rather than have the others find out that days after Alfred's funeral he's already misplaced the one kid still living under his roof.

    Gosh that got lengthy. I got carried away.

    Anyway that's why Tim is back as robin
    end of spoilers.

    In my head canon anyway.
    I don't believe that's how Tim feels about Damian. Perhaps before, but definitely not anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrustyKid View Post
    I don't believe that's how Tim feels about Damian. Perhaps before, but definitely not anymore.
    I know that. It's a joke, poking fun at the characters and the comics. it's not meant to be taken seriously.

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    Uncoloured Page from Tim Drake's Story in Batman: Urban Legends #4 by Belén Ortega


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas 35 View Post
    Uncoloured Page from Tim Drake's Story in Batman: Urban Legends #4 by Belén Ortega

    Looks gorgeous .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas 35 View Post
    Uncoloured Page from Tim Drake's Story in Batman: Urban Legends #4 by Belén Ortega

    Looks amazing

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    In the solicitations for Robin #5, Tim is just called as Tim Drake.

    https://www.gamesradar.com/dc-august...solicitations/

    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/full...solicitations/

    Story by JOSHUA WILLIAMSON
    Art by GLEB MELNIKOV
    Cover by JORGE CORONA
    ON SALE: 8/24/21
    $3.99 US | 32 PAGES | FC | DC
    variant by Francis Manapul
    Price $4.99 US (Card Stock)

    Attachment 109943

    "Robin reunion! Nightwing, Red Hood, Tim Drake, and Spoiler guest-star as they track Damian down with a plan to bring the young hero back to Gotham. Back to his family. But the son of Batman plans to win the Lazarus Tournament and refuses to return. What starts as a happy reunion quickly turns into a Robin rumble!"



    PS: Curiously, Tim was called Red Robin in the preview for the comic Robins (although he use his Robin suit):

    https://www.reddit.com/gallery/nlmp7o
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    Happy for more Tim appearances .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konja7 View Post
    In the solicitations for Robin #5, Tim is just called as Tim Drake.

    https://www.gamesradar.com/dc-august...solicitations/

    https://bleedingcool.com/comics/full...solicitations/

    Story by JOSHUA WILLIAMSON
    Art by GLEB MELNIKOV
    Cover by JORGE CORONA
    ON SALE: 8/24/21
    $3.99 US | 32 PAGES | FC | DC
    variant by Francis Manapul
    Price $4.99 US (Card Stock)

    Attachment 109943

    "Robin reunion! Nightwing, Red Hood, Tim Drake, and Spoiler guest-star as they track Damian down with a plan to bring the young hero back to Gotham. Back to his family. But the son of Batman plans to win the Lazarus Tournament and refuses to return. What starts as a happy reunion quickly turns into a Robin rumble!"



    PS: Curiously, Tim was called Red Robin in the preview for the comic Robins (although he use his Robin suit):

    https://www.reddit.com/gallery/nlmp7o
    Given they're refering to Tim by his name, it's pretty clear he too is going by Robin as well currently, a move not to confuse readers since Damian is the main Robin. I'm sure Tim will get an official new name once his Urban Legends appearence closes out.

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    Yeah. Red Robin was probably only used there for disambiguation, since Damian was in the same scene and they have a "codenames only" rule going on. Damian does call out the fact that Tim called himself Drake for a while, hinting that he needs to come up with a better replacement identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas 35 View Post
    Uncoloured Page from Tim Drake's Story in Batman: Urban Legends #4 by Belén Ortega

    The art is stellar. I don't recognise the artist's name. Is she new to DC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dietrich View Post
    The art is stellar. I don't recognise the artist's name. Is she new to DC?
    She’s done some manga work and was on Captain Marvel and some Marvel covers.

    But yeah this is her first DC work

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