Btw. I still don't get why they can write Ghostmaker as competent Anti-Hero in Batman, but can't do the same with Jason.
Btw. I still don't get why they can write Ghostmaker as competent Anti-Hero in Batman, but can't do the same with Jason.
The thing is, I think it was clear that there was not such FBI investigation. The guy just wanted to catch Jason for his organization, the same one that's stealing the bodies. For me, it's clear that it was implied that it all was a cover for the current Task Force Z, FBI agent included. And Bruce was warning Jason about it all being fishy and dangerous enough because there was, and is, something dirty, gov santioned operation going on and Bruce can't help Jason if he falls then in their hands. Whatever those hands are.
You read Cheer one way, with a mindset, and I read it with a different one. It's been clear before, and it still is now. And I'm discussing this with you in two places at the same time and I know I'm not invested enough in dragging it any more. So I'll stop here. I think we've to agree to disagree in this stuff.
To be honest, I feel the same. But it could have been so much, much, much worse, that I'm going to take what I can get here. It was enjoyable, and that's it.
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Btw. what also annoyed my about the Nightwing Annual is that while Preston Payne is a Clayface, his powerset is complelty differnt from the standard version.
He is not able to shape change and even if he could he is would be way to insane to actually execute a plan like that.
No they weren't. Unless you are talking about Damian before he joined the Bat family. Once he joined the family his signature weapons have been the Batarangs or his hands.
Damian very very rarely in comics uses swords. Outside media that lean into his heir to the Demon heritage have him use a katana. That must be what's given you that perception. Comic Damian uses swords as much as Jason uses a bo or blades.
No, I'm talking about around Tomasi's era in Batman and Robin, during New 52. I can remember him with a sword back then. Maybe I'm mistaken, but I got used to him with a sword from those days. And judging by the fanfics I often read that get a lot of content from then, it's a common conception, mistaken or not. You guys are the hardcore (ok, not the word I mean... In Depth fans? Damn, I suck at English) Damian fans, so I'll trust your word on it, but I remember him like that back then. Maybe it was because covers, or Damian in other media. Hmmm... Could be the case.
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This comic was all in all mainly meh, for Jason. This annual was basically filled to the brim with common grievances I have with Jason in current comics, without quite being the most egregious example of any. Like Aahz mentioned, the tendency for Jason to be all round useless in his appearances, whereas other guest characters often get to flex some sort of skill or get to be highlighted in some way, Jason just gets to be useless. Contributing nothing to the task at hand, and if anything simply being a burden on the hero.
There's also more of Jason justifying using a crowbar, it's always obnoxious in comics when stupid outside decisions are then justified by stupid answers in the narrative.
There's more misinterpretation of Jason's stance as Red Hood, which was about a loss of faith in the system to keep criminals from repeating their crimes (and even cheating the system), leading to more and more victims, not just Jason not being convinced that prison time was a satisfyingly harsh enough punishment for bad guys. As Red Hood, it wasn't about specifically seeing criminals suffer, it was about searching for a more permanent solution (typically death sentences) to decrease the number of victims, for this to be watered down into a 'huh I guess seeing bad guys go to prison is rewarding enough' moment, is insulting and a ridiculous attempt at 'insight'.
There's more of 'bad robin' Jason, although, I give it slightly more credit here for not just ending the moment with Dick reprimanding Jason and shaking his head, but actually delving a little into Jason's reasoning and sympathising with the character, which is more than he usually gets.
This felt more in line with BWFAs writing than anything, basic, with surface level understandings of characters, which is absolutely fine for light hearted webtoons, but knowing that THIS is the new standard for Jason in main continuity is, tiring. Though I suppose, this could have been worse, and in general at least this comic can still be enjoyed as a simple read, just don't think too hard about any of the characterisation, cause you know DC sure don't, so why should you waste the energy.
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This is generally my main complain with anything Taylor writes. That, his surface dealing of not-really subtle messages, and that he doesn't plot whole stories all that well. He's a fun read, and usually knows the characters to some degree even if it's not in depth. But... I get why people say he feels fanfictioney. He's alright, but I don't feel he's very good writing certain types of stories and genres.
I bet he's great once he starts writing his own characters withing his own fictional universes. He feels like he could be one of those writers who shine doing creator owned works, to be honest.
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It's ok, my English isn't so good either. Yes those click bait covers did contribute and fan fics also link him with the sword. I guess it due to people associating Ninja's and LOA with swords and such. So Damian is always given a sword in fan works despite him rarely ever using em.
As a fan who is into Jason big time the B&R issue where Damian ambushes Jason with a sword and crowbar under the pillow likely help that perception of Damian=sword stick in your mind.
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