Any thoughts/consensus on the co-opting of the DEFENDERS brand for the Luke Cage etc street level heroes of the Netflixverse and the print version it inspired?
As with the Cage led MIGHT AVENGERS volume, I wish the CHAMPIONS brand had been legally clear for use (or was it still even tied up at the time?)
And then there was the FEARLESS DEFENDERS, which was mis-branding if I ever saw it...
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Fearless Defenders was indeed a mis-branding, like the Netflix heroes being allowed to usurp it, but Fearless Defenders was an enjoyable book. If you like strong women this book had it in spades. At the time I kept hoping that Alejandra Blaze(female Ghost Rider) would land there after her short series ended. She did not.
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Not a fan of both redressing of the concept/brand name. Same way I absolutely abhor the robbing of the Champions name (whose original series is still, decades later, one of my all-time favorite Marvel books and teams). Cage's Defenders was clearly Marvel Knights (a brand name unexplicably forgotten by Marvel), and Fearless Defenders should have been named THe New Valkyries or some such. Both were valid concepts, however, after an initial boost, I think the misrepresentation hurt them more then helped. Defender should always be Marvel's big guns non-team (and it's so much fun to decide what exactly that means).
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Defenders in name only just isn't THE Defenders, so those series didn't interest me whatsoever. I think around the time of the first Marvel Knights books when Kevin Smith was writing Daredevil, Jim Lee proposed a Defenders book that would have included some/most of the iconic team and added Ghost Rider (who would go much better with that team than with the Avengers -- though I did like him as a Champion -- since that book was a team of misfits.
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TBH, I just can't see the Netflix Defenders as THE Defenders. That said, the thread IS inclusive.
Fearless Defenders at least had Val, who is an iconic Defender and dealt with some supernatural stuff, IIRC.
This is part of my issue with the rebranding of the Netflix team. They had TWO perfectly appropriate names for this team -- either Marvel Knights or Heroes for Hire -- and instead they took another distinctive team's name.
Namor the Sub-Mariner, Marvel's oldest character, will have been published for 85 years in 2024. So where's my GOOD Namor anniversary ongoing, Marvel?
Agree. Heroes for hire or marvel knights were better choices. Why use the name of a team that fights magic, demons and aliens with heavy hitters like hulk and surfer and use it on a street level team?This is part of my issue with the rebranding of the Netflix team. They had TWO perfectly appropriate names for this team -- either Marvel Knights or Heroes for Hire -- and instead they took another distinctive team's name.
Plus many of the ones on the netflix show were in heroes for hire anyways so that name would have worked great.
Waiting for the new series...
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Marvel revives the Defenders for a "cosmos-colliding journey" from Al Ewing & Javier Rodríguez
"When existence itself faces extraordinary threats, it needs an extraordinary defense! That's when you call...the Defenders!" reads Marvel's description of Defenders #1. "Doctor Strange and the Masked Raider take a non-team of Marvel's weirdest, wildest heroes on a mission that will uncover the hidden architecture of reality itself!
"This cosmos was not the first to exist...but if the Defenders can't track Marvel's oldest villain through the deepest trenches of time — it might be the last!"